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jeshua previously said:
that is true and it is an advantage but not enough in my opinion to say its a disadvantage to the guys like me. 
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Right, but you're also one able to take a manul up Hell's Gate... For most people, it can be stressful to deal with a narrow uphill section when the tires slips. Keeping the FJ in place, trying to gain forward progress, and at the same time avoiding stall is no easy task for most!