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Old 08-13-2006, 10:45 PM   #20 (permalink)
Kzoocruiser
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Re: Great Land / Trail Use Video

[quote=Martel]"..As for “where in the heck do Americans feel that this kind of money should come from” --- Government is a correct answer---but TAXPAYER is the best answer. That said…the taxpayers have ALREADY paid for/continue to pay for local/state/fed parks and forest lands. BUT, when it comes to the use of these parks/forest lands, not all (taxpaying) users are created equal. Certain users (example: 4-wheelers and anybody else that wants to connect with the ground via a rubber tire) are often prohibited from using local/state/fed parks/forests, etc. for many of the (baseless?) reasons alluded to in the video...."

What I am starting to learn...is that there is absolutely no sense or evidence of shared community within the rubberized ranks you mention for the very simple reasoning of greed and selfishness. Let's not cry about what we don't have or are about to lose when huge national groups like the AMA or ATVA are more interested in promoting 'racing' than tackling the tough questions involved in getting all of these sports to work TOGETHER and safely with much ignored no-b.s. self-enforcement.(you talk about being unable to access riding areas...well who in the heck is going into these places like the Appalachias and cracking down on those who feel it is their god-given right to ride wherever they darn please....and "by gosh" what are you going to do about it??? )
If I've got the most powerful name in outdoor recreation tirelessly working to create trails which nobody but an arrogant motorcyclist will ever experience...and corporations such as Polaris turning tail and running after "daring" to suggest that a well over 3,000 mile trail system be rightfully turned into a properly maintained multi-use sytem....who is actually at 'fault' here?
The greenies who know we aren't organized worth a damn and ashamedly aren't even voluntarily quantifying what bozos outside the small thinking portion of our (quote/unquote) "community" destroy every day? (gee, if we admit that any of this actually happens or that we need more equipment on the ground in each of these areas...who in the heck is going to pay for that?

"...“Pay-to-play” is great..."

No, it is not....and just ask anybody up here who posesses absolutely NO desire to discuss that very issue affecting their discretionary income!!

"...but how many boaters/hikers/horse-backer riders etc. are currently being asked to “pay-to-play” in local/state/fed parks/lands?..."

Who cares!....do you somehow feel that this isn't mandatory already, should be and presently at the absolute minimum level that it could possibly ever be?

"...How many of same will gladly accept a “pay-to-play” if asked to do so?..."

Again... WHY IN THE HECK DO I CARE IF THEY "GLADLY ACCEPT" THE MONETARY RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAINTAINING WHAT THEY/WE AFFECT???

"...Not many, if any!..."

Isn't that my point here?

"...Not sure how having 4wheelers, alone, “pay-to-play” will address your issue/concern. Am I still missing your point?..."

I guess you might be and respect the fact that you asked; just didn't understand that last sentance...thanks (I'll answer Old Dawg tomorrow).

Last edited by Kzoocruiser : 08-14-2006 at 06:39 AM.
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