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I think I will put a pair of Toyota 4x4 springs on the front at the same time I install the RC 3" lift. I imagine that would allow the lift to almost entirely eliminate the rake?
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2007 Trailmanor Travel Trailer
I think I will put a pair of Toyota 4x4 springs on the front at the same time I install the RC 3" lift. I imagine that would allow the lift to almost entirely eliminate the rake?
Yes, that will. That's a good plan, you can probably find some toyota 4x4 springs on the forums for free. I'm sure some of the guys who have upgraded to OME, Icon, WE, etc. would be willing to give them to you either for free or a very low price.
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'07 5AT 4x4 BC:
-Icon Stage II w/ Tubular UCA's
-Granite Ga9 17x8
-Nitto Trail Grapplers 295/70/r17
-Demello Single Hoop w/ KC's
-All-Pro Rear Bumper and Sliders
-Bajarack Light Cage W/ KC's
-HIDs in Halo Projectors
-Super 44 Muffler
-Volant CAI
-Kenwood DNX9980
-1.25" Spidertrax
-BMC.
I think I will put a pair of Toyota 4x4 springs on the front at the same time I install the RC 3" lift. I imagine that would allow the lift to almost entirely eliminate the rake?
I ran the 4x4 COs in the front and 4x4 springs in the rear for awhile and it was much better than stock 4x2 setup. also only cost me about $50 from someone on the forum.
another option is 4x4 springs in the rear and bilstein 5100s with 4x4 coils up front.
any lift that fits the 4x4 will also fit the 4x2.
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1992 Ninja ZX7R K2
MEMBER OF THE BENT UPRIGHT CLUB
TRD CAI, KC Daylighters, Kragen HID's, Demello skid, PreRunner bumper, Gibson catback, ICON extended travel coilovers, ICON billet UCA's, ICON rear piggys, Kenwood, Cobra CB. Black out door handles, mirrors, bumpers, bezel and rims. TRD floor mats.
actually it will sit higher on the 4x2 then it would on the 4x4 because the 4x4 is 300lbs heavier.
With the 4x4 springs, most likely, but with the 4x2 springs it would still probably be a little bit lower, or just about the same height. The stock 4x4 sits higher in the front than the stock 4x2, and with spacers you aren't changing the load rating of the spring, just the length. By adding the rough country springs and shocks in the rear, the rear of the 4x2 is going to be the same height as the rear of a 4x4 with the RC lift, and the front of the 4x2 with the 4x2 springs and RC spacers is going to sit lower than the front of a 4x4 with the RC spacers.
On the other hand, with 4x4 springs on the front and the RC spacers, I can see where this would come into affect as you will have less weight riding on the springs...but actually when I think about it, isn't most of the 300 extra pounds coming from the lack of a transfer case and front diff? If that's the case, then there would be no difference between the 4x2 and 4x4 heights because there would not be a difference in the load on the springs as the body in both 4x4 and 4x2 weigh the same...I could be wrong on this part though.
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'07 5AT 4x4 BC:
-Icon Stage II w/ Tubular UCA's
-Granite Ga9 17x8
-Nitto Trail Grapplers 295/70/r17
-Demello Single Hoop w/ KC's
-All-Pro Rear Bumper and Sliders
-Bajarack Light Cage W/ KC's
-HIDs in Halo Projectors
-Super 44 Muffler
-Volant CAI
-Kenwood DNX9980
-1.25" Spidertrax
-BMC.
With the 4x4 springs, most likely, but with the 4x2 springs it would still probably be a little bit lower, or just about the same height. The stock 4x4 sits higher in the front than the stock 4x2, and with spacers you aren't changing the load rating of the spring, just the length. By adding the rough country springs and shocks in the rear, the rear of the 4x2 is going to be the same height as the rear of a 4x4 with the RC lift, and the front of the 4x2 with the 4x2 springs and RC spacers is going to sit lower than the front of a 4x4 with the RC spacers.
On the other hand, with 4x4 springs on the front and the RC spacers, I can see where this would come into affect as you will have less weight riding on the springs...but actually when I think about it, isn't most of the 300 extra pounds coming from the lack of a transfer case and front diff? If that's the case, then there would be no difference between the 4x2 and 4x4 heights because there would not be a difference in the load on the springs as the body in both 4x4 and 4x2 weigh the same...I could be wrong on this part though.
sorry thought you were saying the same lift would sit lower on the 4x2 than on the 4x4. yes, the stock 4x2 is way lower than the 4x4...thats why I immediately changed over to the 4x4 setup. currently im running ICON all around with no issues. everything is the same on the 4x2 except we dont have a t case, different rear drive line, no CVs.
isnt the t case mounted to the frame/chassis? therefore, its "sprung weight" and not "un-sprung weight" ?
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1992 Ninja ZX7R K2
MEMBER OF THE BENT UPRIGHT CLUB
TRD CAI, KC Daylighters, Kragen HID's, Demello skid, PreRunner bumper, Gibson catback, ICON extended travel coilovers, ICON billet UCA's, ICON rear piggys, Kenwood, Cobra CB. Black out door handles, mirrors, bumpers, bezel and rims. TRD floor mats.
sorry thought you were saying the same lift would sit lower on the 4x2 than on the 4x4. yes, the stock 4x2 is way lower than the 4x4...thats why I immediately changed over to the 4x4 setup. currently im running ICON all around with no issues. everything is the same on the 4x2 except we dont have a t case, different rear drive line, no CVs.
isnt the t case mounted to the frame/chassis? therefore, its "sprung weight" and not "un-sprung weight" ?
Yea, you're right about the t-case, it would be sprung weight, but the front axel would be unsprung weight.
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'07 5AT 4x4 BC:
-Icon Stage II w/ Tubular UCA's
-Granite Ga9 17x8
-Nitto Trail Grapplers 295/70/r17
-Demello Single Hoop w/ KC's
-All-Pro Rear Bumper and Sliders
-Bajarack Light Cage W/ KC's
-HIDs in Halo Projectors
-Super 44 Muffler
-Volant CAI
-Kenwood DNX9980
-1.25" Spidertrax
-BMC.
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