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Old 04-14-2006, 11:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 04-14-2006, 11:54 PM   #12 (permalink)
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none of them have failed. I've used a 3500lb load tow strap with a 10,000lb breaking load.
That's way too low for use as a recovery strap. You've labeled it correctly, calling it a tow strap and that's all it's good for, towing a vehicle on the road. Typically, people use recovery straps rated at 20,000 - 30,000 lbs.

DO NOT use anything with chains or hooks attached for recovery. Generally speaking, DO NOT use chains for recovery. They have their place, but not for snatching anybody out.
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That's way too low for use as a recovery strap. You've labeled it correctly, calling it a tow strap and that's all it's good for, towing a vehicle on the road. Typically, people use recovery straps rated at 20,000 - 30,000 lbs.

DO NOT use anything with chains or hooks attached for recovery. Generally speaking, DO NOT use chains for recovery. They have their place, but not for snatching anybody out.

I know this. I have a rather hefty chain that I know for a fact will not break. It's been used to move bulldozers and payloaders though I do not like to use this while wheelin' and another "recovery strap" per say which is rated at 45,000lbs break weight of 100,000 I believer I just never had either of these 2 handy.

But like I said I promised some pics of it covered in mud. here they are.

Finally got some pics of it in the mud or with mud on it. This was after wheeling at the carwash. Fun stuff.




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That's way too low for use as a recovery strap. You've labeled it correctly, calling it a tow strap and that's all it's good for, towing a vehicle on the road. Typically, people use recovery straps rated at 20,000 - 30,000 lbs.

DO NOT use anything with chains or hooks attached for recovery. Generally speaking, DO NOT use chains for recovery. They have their place, but not for snatching anybody out.
so you are stateing not to use winches as they involve hooks?
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so you are stateing not to use winches as they involve hooks?
stop being a smart ass winches are an off-road engineered recovery equipment.

edit: towstraps with hooks or chains are not.
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One of the problems with using chain is they don't give at all and therefore are hard on equipment. Since straps stretch they're more forgiving and won't rip part off a tow hook.

Another thing is a strap can recover you like nothing else can. For example, one time when I went snow wheeling I was buried up to my frame so we hooked up the strap. Now, snow is a funny thing because it will refreeze instantly. Well the guy pulling me hits the gas and gets a little momentum up. I see the back of his truck jerk around a little and then he comes to a complete stop. I feel absolutely nothing because the truck was frozen to the ground. Then about a half second later, because of the stretchiness of the strap, the strap yanks me out.

Here is a good article about recovery:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billav...ery/index.html
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stop being a smart ass winches are an off-road engineered recovery equipment.

edit: towstraps with hooks or chains are not.
I am not trying to be a smartass, I was just asking for a clarifacation
you see, there are lots o guys here that are new to wheeling, they bought the FJ because it was a cool looking vehicle and will start wheeling because of it, if you post something, think about all angles because they will take it as gospel.
now about recovery equiptment.
heavyduty rated chains are used when circleing a rock, they do not chafe and it is recommended that you join it togethter as shortly as possible with a shackle. using he shackle as a attachment point. a tree strap is used when circleing a live object so you do not damage it.
Never take a winch line and attach it to itself, it will damagethe line and cause failure.
Using a chain inline is asking for a missle to take out something.
Recovery equiptment should be inspected before a pull for chafeing and cuts.
using equiptment that is not rated for a pull,recomended 1 1/2 times weight of vehicle to be recovered, is asking for a accident. the strains developed during a recovery can be that of the vehicle and frictional equivalent of whatever is causeing it to be stuck.
Another pointer, it is adviced that you put a weighted bag across the strap,, in the case of a failure this causes the line to go to ground instead of snapping back like a rubberband and using all its atored energy to break something, hood,grill, human, etc.
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I used the rear loop this weekend to get pulled out of a mud hole, then used one of the front loops to pull a Jeep out of the same mud hole. No problems, just remember if you using the recommend tow strap without hooks you might want to carry a d-ring or something to hook your tow strap to the loop. The FJ has tow loops instead of tow hooks.
The D-ring is definatly the way to go... I had to use all 3 recovery points with a d-ring and the only issue i had was I took of a small piece of the rear bumper... not noticable at all... so its all good!

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Thanks for your help guys. Here's a picture of a tow loop in use. I've got a few other pics in the photo area.
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