Poor Man's "REAR Winch" for the FJ

[LandCruiserSteve]

magnumpi previously said:

but if you are burried to your frame in mud how are you going to feed that winch cable underneath your truck all the way to the rear?

That's why I mentioned that this technique is of a conditional nature where access to the undercarriage can be achieved. Unfortunately, if you're stuck in mud, typically you are up to the frame in the muck. And, an alternative method would have to be used.

BellyDoc previously said:

It would be a REALLY BAD IDEA to run synthetic winch rope over HOT EXHAUST PIPES, and the stock position of the exhaust crossover on the FJC puts it really close to where this is being pictured.

x2. If the direct route of the synthetic rope can't be held away from the exhaust pipes by the forward skid plates and the rear axle, I wouldn't recommend this procedure either.

BellyDoc previously said:

Additionally, there are SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES in the forces being applied to the front bumper and the winch fairlead when you do THIS, relative to what goes on with standard (even standard-ly off axis) winching.

Absolutely. Not only will the front bumper be under a temporary atypical downward force, but the fairlead will also be incurring directional stresses that it's not accustomed to either.

Again, this should be a limited-use (or perhaps a last resort) means of rearward recovery. Also, this procedure should not be used when extreme amounts of force will have to be exerted upon the winch, the front bumper and/or the winch cable.

BellyDoc previously said:

Another alternative, if you're in a REALLY BAD SITUATION is to deflate a rear tire completely (consider unseating a bead, even) and then using the flat tire as a winch reel to wrap chain or tow line around, and run to a fixed anchor point. Then, with REAR DIFFERENTIAL LOCKED, you can "winch out" by driving into reverse.

Yep, yet another alternative to sans-winch recovery. Matter of fact, somewhere out there is a spooling device that can actually be bolted to the outside of a wheel (via the lug nuts) so the tire itself woudn't have to be unseated . . . . . thus providing you with a "poor man's PTO winch."

And, regardless of whatever creative form of self-recovery one uses, even more caution will have to be practiced in the area of safety.

[LandCruiserSteve]

ISLAND FJ CRUISER previously said:

What kind of bumper is that in the rear?Do you have detailed pictures on the instalations and instructions.

FlyNdrive's is an ARB that has been customized for a rear winch.

My rear bumper is a standard All-Pro. (All-Pro Rear Bumper Installation (pics))

[LandCruiserSteve]

BTW, here's one version of the wheel mounted winch spool I was referring to.

Video demo: 4WD Recovery Australia, 4WD Recovery Kit Australia - Bush Winches and Anchors

[ISLAND FJ CRUISER]

LandCruiserSteve previously said:

FlyNdrive's is an ARB that has been customized for a rear winch.

My rear bumper is a standard All-Pro. (All-Pro Rear Bumper Installation (pics))

Would you happen to know how he did it?

[LandCruiserSteve]

ISLAND FJ CRUISER previously said:

Would you happen to know how he did it?

Here ya go . . . . ARB rear bumper install -- Lots of pics

[Nevada_FJ]

Overall great idea to point out I really don't want it to seem like you post a good thought that some day could help others and we all jump on why that won't work. Good posts on other ideas and some safety concerns as well. One issue I had with trying the HiLift method was that the chain never wanted to stay on the lip of the jack? It always seems that I needed three hands to make it work I need to get out with someone who know what they are doing and try it again one day.

[BellyDoc]

LandCruiserSteve previously said:

BTW, here's one version of the wheel mounted winch spool I was referring to.

Video demo: 4WD Recovery Australia, 4WD Recovery Kit Australia - Bush Winches and Anchors

This is flippin' BRILLIANT!

Those Aussies have it GOIN' ON in the outback!

I'm not easily impressed with new gadgets.

I'm impressed.

[LandCruiserSteve]

Nevada_FJ previously said:

I really don't want it to seem like you post a good thought that some day could help others and we all jump on why that won't work.

That's what's great about this forum. I personally appreciate being taken to task on techniques where either improved ideas or alternate means would/could be useful. Someone out there will always have a better idea and/or another way to do something. And, that's a good thing.

[LandCruiserSteve]

BellyDoc previously said:

This is flippin' BRILLIANT!

Yep, I thought you might like that . . .

[Fjamming]

That tire winch is a really smart idea. It is however kind of expensive...