Turning off the VSC

[VTFJC]

t5gt previously said:

sorry this thread is off topic VTFJC I'm not going to call you names or try to discredit you ....

Thanks- I do appreciate that- although theres not much left of me anyway since i've been torn to pieces already
Ive read the above and your links- its not looking good that the tires will last as I originally hoped they would- but, even still, Im giving them a shot- so far - so good. If snow/Ice driving is a problem like I have always feared it would be for these tires, then they will quickly be swapped for Hakkas, as is my usual ritual every November.
Also thank you Thai , especially for pointing out the load range which is in fact important to me. I always buy load range E and never even considered they would put load range P on there!

[Blue Cruise]

L8Apex previously said:

There's a thread on ih8mud where someone has experimented with cutting the diff-lock-switch-position wire. See the posts by "freewheeling frank" and "Alex H":

http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=84238

I looked at some of the posts breifly, pretty technical stuff...I'll have to spend some time digesting it to see if it's worth while. Thanks!

[Blue Cruise]

I'm not sure what people think that I'm going to do if I happen to find a reasonable way to disconnect the VSC??? Probably 70% (a pure guess) of the vehicles on the road today don't have a traction aid. Having it certainly doesn't make you a good, sensible driver anyways, does it??

[dane]

Blue Cruise previously said:

Having it certainly doesn't make you a good, sensible driver anyways, does it??

I think I am a good sensible driver: I have never had a ticket in my life and I have never caused an accident. I keep long distance from other cars, keep in line, always use my turn signals. I have also attended driving schools, raced autocross (in a Fiat X9), went to off-road driving classes, drove almost everywhere in the world etc.

I was hit by other cars, and I had to brake or avoid an obstacle numerous times. I have hit patches of ice on mountain passes even when driving at a very reasonable speed.

Today - I will never ever buy a car without traction control. My current BMW (AWD wagon) convinced me of that - it is absolutely amazing how well it corrects itself on slippery roads and in emergency situations.

It is STUPID (IMHO) not to use modern traction control when driving on public roads. Just like I would not buy a bad parachute, or worn-out climbing protection. Sure you can do with whatever you have - but why?

[RoverGGM]

Blue Cruise previously said:

I'm not sure what people think that I'm going to do if I happen to find a reasonable way to disconnect the VSC??? Probably 70% (a pure guess) of the vehicles on the road today don't have a traction aid. Having it certainly doesn't make you a good, sensible driver anyways, does it??

70% may not have it yet, but; here's just a few of the "better ones" that do

Acura Acura MDX
Acura RL
Acura TL
Acura TSX

Audi Audi A3
Audi A4
Audi A6
Audi A8
Audi S4
Audi TT

BMW BMW 3 Series
BMW 5 Series
BMW 6 Series
BMW 7 Series
BMW M3
BMW M5
BMW M6
BMW X3
BMW X5
BMW Z4

Buick Buick LaCrosse
Buick Lucerne
Buick Rainier
Buick Terraza

Cadillac Cadillac CTS
Cadillac DTS
Cadillac Escalade
Cadillac Escalade ESV
Cadillac Escalade EXT
Cadillac SRX
Cadillac STS
Cadillac XLR
Chevrolet Chevrolet Avalanche
Chevrolet Corvette
Chevrolet Express 1500 Van
Chevrolet Suburban
Chevrolet Tahoe
Chevrolet Trailblazer
Chevrolet Uplander

Chrysler Chrysler 300
Chrysler Crossfire

Dodge Dodge Charger
Dodge Durango
Dodge Magnum

Ford Ford E-350 Van
Ford Expedition
Ford Explorer
Ford Freestar

GMC GMC Envoy
GMC Envoy XL
GMC Savana Van
GMC Yukon
GMC Yukon XL

Honda Honda Accord
Honda Accord Hybrid
Honda CR-V
Honda Odyssey
Honda Pilot
Honda Ridgeline

Hyundai Hyundai Azera
Hyundai Sonata
Hyundai Tiburon
Hyundai Tucson

Infiniti Infiniti FX35/45
Infiniti G35
Infiniti M35/45
Infiniti Q45
Infiniti QX56 Standard

Isuzu Isuzu Ascender 5
Isuzu Ascender 7 Standard
Standard StabiliTrak
Jaguar Jaguar New X-Type Sportwagon
Jaguar S-Type
Jaguar XJ Series
Jaguar XK Series
Jaguar X-Type

Jeep Jeep Commander
Jeep Grand Cherokee
Jeep Liberty

Kia Amanti
Optima
Rio
Sedona
Sportage
Land Rover Land Rover LR-3
Land Rover Range Rover
Land Rover Range Rover Sport

Lexus Lexus ES 330
Lexus GS 300/430
Lexus GX 470
Lexus IS 250/350
Lexus LS 430
Lexus LX 470
Lexus RX 330
Lexus RX 400h
Lexus SC 430

Lincoln Lincoln LS
Lincoln Navigator

Maserati Maserati Quattroporte Sedan

Mazda Mazda MX-5/Miata
Mazda RX-8
Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz C-Class
Mercedes-Benz CLK/CLS-Class
Mercedes-Benz E-Class
Mercedes-Benz G-Class
Mercedes-Benz M-Class
Mercedes-Benz R-Class
Mercedes-Benz S-Class
Mercedes-Benz SL-Class
Mercedes-Benz SLK/SLR Class

Mercury Mountaineer
Monterrey

Mitsubishi Mitsubishi Montero
Mitsubishi Endeavor

Nissan Nissan 350Z
Nissan Armada
Nissan Frontier
Nissan Maxima
Nissan Murano
Nissan Pathfinder
Nissan Quest
Nissan Titan
Nissan Xterra

Pontiac Pontiac G6
Pontiac Grand Prix
Pontiac Montana SV6
Pontiac Vibe

Porsche Porsche 911
Porsche Boxster
Porsche Cayenne
Porsche Cayman Standard

Saab Saab 9.3
Saab 9.5
Saab 9.7x

Saturn Saturn Relay
Saturn VUE
Subaru Subaru B9 Tribeca
Subaru Outback

Suzuki Suzuki Grand Vitara

Toyota Toyota Avalon
Toyota Camry
Toyota Corolla
Toyota FJ Cruiser
Toyota Highlander
Toyota Highlander Hybrid
Toyota Landcruiser
Toyota Matrix
Toyota Prius
Toyota RAV4
Toyota Scion xB
Toyota Sequoia
Toyota Sienna
Toyota Tacoma
Toyota Tundra

Volkswagen Volkswagen Golf/GTI
Volkswagen Jetta
Volkswagen New Beetle
Volkswagen new Golf
Volkswagen Passat
Volkswagen Phaeton
Volkswagen Touareg

Volvo Volvo S40
Volvo S60
Volvo S80
Volvo V50
Volvo V70
Volvo XC70
Volvo XC90

[highbeams]

VTFJC previously said:

Racers also promote beer viagra, cigarettes, and practically anything else you pay them to promote- doesnt make it any safer! They must have an off switch- How do they do doughnuts? Im not disagreeing with you- im sure its safer to have it on in most situations- but where does it end? Should all cars be completely computer controlled and we just sleep in the passenger seat because it would be safer that way?

I notice Nascar does let their drivers do those highschool antics

[highbeams]

Thai ever notice some people would argue with a wall?

[MissFJ]

^^Let's not start this up again

[Thai]

highbeams previously said:

Thai ever notice some people would argue with a wall?

I am forbidden to answer.... Apparently, you can't argue against someone who is wrong on this forum...you should just let him/her continue posting garbage over and over again. Ooopps, i have said too much....

Mental note: keep quiet next time, esp. in the presence of the new moderators.

[RoverGGM]

Yeah it is kinda wierd having a moderator that is actually on-board.

I have to hit the delete key a lot more all of a sudden, before I hit Submit Reply.

I'll admit it I'm kinda skeered, but also a little intrigued. It's kinda like when the substitute teacher takes over the class at first. It takes a while to see how long the leash is....so to speak