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Old 08-21-2008, 03:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Some Jerry can (and rack) info for you

In the process of gathering the things I need to make my water / fuel / hilift jack "rack" for the FJ, I came across some interesting info to share that might save some of you some time in the future.

If nothing else it might come in someone elses search some day to prevent them from having to do so much footwork

There are references out there and good write-ups about jerry cans etc., but this is just some later-breaking updates about availability.

Not bashing them or anything, but the Blitz cans are not the quality you want to shoot for.

The brands out there that have a great rep are:

Wedco and Wavian

Now. That being said, the two mentioned above are the NATO compliant cans that are obtainable.

However, WEDCO has shut down tooling of their cans to re-tool for 50-state EPA compliance. More than likely, all the new WEDCO cans that are made after this post (once they start up the line again) are going to be the CARB version.

To avoid this, you either have to buy them now before the "old" style runs out, or buy the Wavian.

I have gathered from several sources that the Wavian is a better can anyway, but unfortunately they are made in the UK and the US distributor isn't shy about the mark-up.

The Blue (water) WEDCO cans are out of stock almost everywhere, but Wavian is still in full swing production of the original style cans in all colors.

Due to the weight of the cans, your best bet at the best quality can in my opinion (from my research) is to suck up the extra mark-up and get the Wavian cans which are available from Garrett Wade (the US importer in NY). This will avoid the high shipping costs from the UK based on weight and offset the markup.

The spouts and carriers are small and light and can be obtained directly from the manufacturer for a fraction of the cost from Wavian Associates - Steel Jerrycans, Jerry cans.

So basically:

The best "new" non-CARB jerry cans you will be able to get are going to come from garrettwade.com acting as a proxy for Wavian.

The spouts and holders are cheaper to get directly from the manufacturer in the UK.

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The new WEDCO cans:



Holder made in U.S. ($89) (horizontal mount)



Holder made in the U.K. ($23...yes USD) (verticle mount)



I have not considered any other jerry can mounts as these were the only two I considered because of their ability to be locked and their ease or adaptability.

Anyway, that is all.

Feel free to provide any input.

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Old 08-21-2008, 07:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Some Jerry can info for you

Good info, but it seems that the newer Scepter jerry cans are what most people want these days.
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Good info, but it seems that the newer Scepter jerry cans are what most people want these days.
I'm an active duty Marine.

I have "Scepter" cans coming out my @ss...

I use them all the time.

I hate them.

The only good thing about a plastic can is the weight when you have to carry it miles across the desert. Other than that they are inferior. And they DO leak more often. They also wear out from rattling in the gypsy racks. Wears a hole right through them.
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Re: Some Jerry can info for you

Yep I love the NATO cans. The best. Do not waist your time or money on plastic.
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Re: Some Jerry can info for you

How may 20 litre cans of gas and water do you recommend?
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How may 20 litre cans of gas and water do you recommend?
depends on where you are going. Out for the day on the trail? Going out for a week long expedition??? If you are going expedition, try to use 2 wheel drive as much as you can to save on gas consumption.
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Re: Some Jerry can info for you

I'll be spending the next 2 years in Africa with the FJ.

One can each of Water and Fuel is enough for the short trips I will be making.

And good enough to get me between fuel locations on the longer trips.

I'll throw some "disposable" Specter cans on the roof rack for any long trips, but the Wavian cans are gonna stay on the rig no matter what.
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Re: Some Jerry can info for you

I'll have a two jerry can (lockable) rack with hi-jack (lockable) mount that attaches to the existing 4 bolts on the rear door for the spare tire fabbed up by the end of next week.

If I'm gonna make one, I might as well make two or three.

If anyone is interested, PM me.

I understand that nobody wants to get on line for something they haven't seen pics of yet, but if I knew how many were at least interested, I could make a good run, buy more material at once, and reduce the individual cost.

I would be willing to quote for powdercoated or bare metal as well. That's up to the demand.

Not the best welder on Earth, but better than most, and I don't think a gas can rack is going to take me more than a few hours to complete.

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Let me know who's interested, and I'll have an idea of the individual cost.

Right now I would be shooting for the 500 dollar range with powdercoat. More or less depending on how many I make at one time.

I'll post up some pics when I make up the first one to assemble a jig.

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I acutally just used one of my five gallon cans to refill on the trail for the first time. It sucked..... super slow flow rate. It probably took me at least 15 min to get five gallons in the tank. There is no breather to prevent a vacume from forming as the gas pours out, so I had to tip it back every few seconds to let the air rush in so gas could come back out. It sucked. I just have the standard Blitz metal red cans. The cans are fine... the spout is the issue.
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Yeah, that's pretty much the story everywhere with Blitz cans.

The shape of the mouth, the internal venting, and the spout make all the difference.

Blitz cans look O.K., but if you're going to actually use them, you're going to want to upgrade to the WEDCO or WAVIAN can.
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