Interested in the new Toyota Tundra? Stop in at the Toyota Tundra Forum @ www.tundratalk.net!
Toyota FJ Cruiser Header Background Toyota FJ Cruiser Header Right

» Search Used Cars
Search for used vehicles by ZIP, please enter Zipcode below:
Google Links


» Wheel & Tire Center

Google Ads

Sponsors

Go Back   Toyota FJ Cruiser Forum > Home
Register Home Forum Active Topics Photo Gallery Chat Blogs Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


       
Registered Members do not see the above ads. Please Register Today - It's quick and free!
View Single Post
Old 11-06-2007, 07:41 AM   #60 (permalink)
1911
Forum Superstar
 
1911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Member Number: 4994
Location: Parker County, TX and Santa Fe County, NM
Posts: 2,344
Lifetime Supporting Member
Re: Concealed Handgun Mount

Quote:
etch111 previously said: View Post
This is an unfortunateand complex situation we find ourselves in a free society...it is just not possible to tell the legal responsible gun owner from the violent criminal in a capitalist system.... the freedom to buy legal or illegal comes first here... good or bad we live with it..... but with all respect you would still be much safer in Ireland.
Etch, I'll grant you your statistics (that they're all correct and etc.) and that you can make a good argument with them, but here's the main difference between you and me (I think) - I'm not willing to risk my life or my family's lives on statistics, especially not in a situation that I can have some control of myself. Dead or injured, there would be no consolation in the fact that you were part of a very small statistic.

We all face risk every day. Some risks you have little control over, like a tornado or a mud slide or cancer for example. Some risks you can partially mitigate by being proactive, like defensive driving or exercising to stay healthy. Such is carrying a concealed weapon; you pray you never have to use it but if faced with the threat of violent crime you have more options with one than without.

So yes, I lived in Northern Ireland for several years and came away unharmed, in spite of a few brushes with paramilitary groups. But I wouldn't move back now no matter how good the statistics look, because that government would deny me the right to protect myself from armed criminals. Same with CA, NY, IL, or anywhere else that does the same. It's not about statistics, it's about some politician that can't protect me telling me that I have no right to do it either.
__________________
All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible - T. E. Lawrence

KE5VTE
TLCA # 16550


Last edited by 1911 : 11-06-2007 at 07:44 AM.
1911 is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0.0

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:27 AM.

  • AutoForums.com
  • Truck
  • European
  • Import
  • Domestic
  • Manufacturer

AutoForums.com is the premier network of enthusiast-owned enthusiast-operated automotive communities.
We operate more than 100 automotive forums where our users consult peers for shopping information and advice, and share experiences and opinions as a community.

Visit AutoForums.com today.

For advertising information, please visit our AutoForums.com website and Contact Us, or send an email message to sales@autoforums.com.