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attillahunley previously said:
Again, what's the difference between trimming back bushes to the same size as the trail as compared to running your vehicle though there and breaking the branches off? Common sense goes a long way. We can "what if" forever. I like the mudhole scenario, so, let's have a bush scenario: A little baby bush is born next to a trail, before long its 8 feet across and 4 of that is in your trail, do you rub it to get through and/or use a "bush spotter" and break off 2 feet worth of branches, trim it 2 feet so you can fit or simply drive around it? I feel that there is less impact trimming the bush back than driving wide to avoid it and widening the trail, bending it back with a "bush spotter" which may actually break a main trunk or branch near the trunk causing even more damage than trimming.
Motor coach? Whatever. With your line of thought maybe we all should just ride bicycles offroad instead, that's much less of an impact and definitely treading even more lightly....
Common sense goes a long way. Go lecture those who don't care, litterers, people that burn against restrictions, drive off trail, blaze new trails etc, etc, etc... I've hauled out more than 50 lawn and garden bags full of trash myself, organized cleanup outtings and reported a dozen violators over the years. Although I do have respect for your good natured concern for the desert, I feel that your line is bureacratic / political and somewhere near senselessness. I feel a spotted owl story coming next.
Keep treading lightly..
Attilla
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I give up, when you see a TRAIL CLOSED sign, do not complain, oh yes I have seen my share over stupid stuff like this
it may suprise you, but they nolonger want bicycles offroads, they cause way to much damage with those narrow tires that bite way deep, and Motorcoaches, you would be suprised where some guys will try to get them, every year they colse trails while they do an extraction of some trailer or motorcoach thet could not make it and got stuck, blocking the trail, and it sometimes stays closed for several weeks till they get professional equiptment down there to get it out.
Further more, we are already in a MAJOR WAR to keep public lands open, groups like green peace and the Seirra Club, Earth NOw and so many others. monitor trails and send evidence of this kind of abuse to Senators and Congress Men to prove that Off Road Vehicles have no right to be on public lands. Every time they find this kind of stuff it gets recorded and filed away for court battles. Our lands are being slowly closed every few years by lack of funding, we do not need the added preasure of this kind of abuse. Just go to a site that advocates trail clousures, you will see that they use such small stuff as ilegal stream crossings, going 5 feet off trail, running over or damageing plants to help thier cause, if they start finding evidence of weed eaters and electric pruners being used they will make a mountain out of it also. They go so far as to monitor offroad sites to download threads about illeagle activities, such as idiots posting pics of running closed areas. We do not need to be feeding ammunition to the enemy. Further, if you do not want scratches, do not do the trail. when you go offraod you have to acept the results. TO start to change the enviroment to suit you is the Problem we have had for thousands of years untill we now have the enviroment closed in to special forest and parks so we can protect them
Tread Lightly is not a option
it is a way of life
and we do not change the rules for scratches
it may seem like a "whats the difference" thing to you
but for those of us fighting the battle, showing up at public meetings to show support or to speak, writing our Senetors and Congressmen, Lobbying and donateing time,money and effort into the cause. it is a CREED.
The Only Way We Can Keep These Lands Open is Through Stewardship and Education.
cutting brances to get by is a Howitzer given to the Greenies
