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Old 04-21-2008, 02:24 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Possibly moving to the Phoenix area...

Culture is a little to be desired imo but then again I'm from Europe so no matter what that would be a stretch... I moved from Germany to AZ in 1996 and I'm staying for good!
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:29 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: Possibly moving to the Phoenix area...

Who needs that culture crap, when ya have Manzanita Speedway!

Dirt track + beer+ bad food = A dang good time......IMO
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:58 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Re: Possibly moving to the Phoenix area...

I get all my culture over the internet....
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:17 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Re: Possibly moving to the Phoenix area...

I try to avoid culture by use of proper sterile technique.
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Re: Possibly moving to the Phoenix area...

Heck, you want culture, just drive down Van Buern St.
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Re: Possibly moving to the Phoenix area...

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Who needs that culture crap, when ya have Manzanita Speedway!

Dirt track + beer+ bad food = A dang good time......IMO
I agree!! I went to the World of Outlaws the last time they were here. Now that is a good time. But next time Im bringing goggles and a hat for sure.
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Old 04-23-2008, 06:53 PM   #37 (permalink)
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The "dry" heat is freaking oppressive...seriously! I absolutely hate it. I've been here since 1993 - you do NOT get used to it. Period.

The culture, there isn't any. There is not a good choice of food. The most ridiculous thing ever is trying to find good mexican food.....um...we should be able to find that, right??? WRONG. We thrive on chain restaurants here and it sucks.

The traffic sucks, but I think it does anywhere.

The pollution is nasty. They have days where they tell you if you have respiratory problems and/or are a senior citizen to stay in doors - and these days are quite common. When driving to work on the 51 Southbound everyday, as the city starts to come into view an giant brown cloud covers the whole valley - it's horrid.

I NEVER had allergies until I moved here. And I used to live around the woods and around TONS of pollen.

There really isn't all that much nightlife unless you go to Old Town Scottsdale filled with really horrendous fake gold digger chicks and gawd awful frat boys.

If you have kids or are planning to, keep in mind, we are 50th in education and have held that record for years now.....

Um, that is my advice. And yes, I live in AZ....and yes, I am MOVING out of AZ as soon as we can. We would be gone by now, but the pregnancy determined we would stay at least until she is born and a bit older.

OH, and every house is the same and you can basically touch your neighbors....you get no side yard, no front yard and no back yard. And you pay out the arse for this.

Enjoy.....
Have to pretty much agree with Kat. Food here sucks, very few restaraunts I will go to on a regular basis. They are mostly dumbed down for the masses, lots of salt in everything, and a mediocre menu with not much novely in it.

One restaraunt I like, for the non-traditional Italian food, is Boa Cafe on Mill Avenue in Tempe. The pasta is good, just wish they had a better bread supplier.
Favorite Pizza place, Romes on Mcdowell Road in Scottsdale. Nice european owners of Italian and Albanian decent. The pizza is great, best I have had outside of back east. As for mexican food you have to hit the little mom and pop places to even have a decent chance.

I personally like the weather, even if its hot, better than shoveling snow, or getting rained on everyday, like Oregon and Washington. The only thing that sucks is it doesn't cool off like it used to at night. Seems that as the valley grew, and more blacktop was added it just packs the heat in all night.
As for education, hopefully you won't have to send your kid to public schooling. The whole english learner program seems to hold the english speaking kids back some.

The traffic, forget about it. If it isn't the weekend or very early morning the traffic is packed. Even around 10am and 12pm its heavy. Its almost like no one has a job in the valley.
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Old 04-29-2008, 09:54 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I was born in Dover, NJ...and that's about all of NJ I know because my family moved out here in 1976, about a year after I was born.

The heat in the summer IS awful but you deal with it: you live with the AC on all the time, you spend hours in the pool staying cool, or you go camping/visiting in northern AZ to get out of the heat for the weekend.

You mentioned nightlife. What, specifically, are you looking for? I'm a DJ (DNB mostly, if you want details, and if you don't know what that is don't worry about it, I also play hip hop) and I can tell you what we have to offer on nearly all of the genres and sub-cultures that exist around here as I've collaborated with just about every music community Phx has to offer. They are ALL very small, but if you know where to go and where to look, a whole new world opens up to you that the major media outlets ignore completely, and the promoters, in turn, ignore in their advertising.

Food? I have to say that I got spoiled when I lived in ATL for 5 years with all the mom and pop joints on practically every corner. For some reason Phx is VERY commercial and relies on chains and I suspect a lot has to do with the population explosion over the last 20 years. But, much like the music community, there are several good places to eat that are off the beaten path. I can hook you up with several good places in a variety of cuisines that are NOT commercial in any capacity: Indian, Middle Eastern, Thai (Kat, have you tried Thai Basil in Tempe? They're phenomenal--I've never had a bad dish and just about everyone I know that has eaten there has raved about it!), Mediterranean, Italian, Soul Food, and of course, Mexican--La Perla in Glendale/Peoria; Frank & Lupe's in Scottsdale; Los Dos Molinos with two locations, one Mesa and one in S. Phx; El Bravo on 7th St. between Dunlap and Northern which, btw, has been rated number one by the New Times for a few years and they just opened a new location in the airport too....and there are a few others but I have a headache and I'm drawing a blank at the moment.

Phoenix has draw-backs like any other major city, but it is really clean despite the pollution which happens to be worse in the winter than in summer. The traffic is bad during the "school" months. During those hot summer months, it's not nearly as bad. The playgrounds and parks are pretty empty but sometimes get busy after dinner once things have cooled off a bit. There are lots of year-round leagues for just about every sport imaginable. Whether you're a serious player or play for fun, there is a league out there for you, and you can play men's only or find co-ed leagues too.

No other state can offer you sandy beaches about 5 hours away by car, skiing and snowboarding 2 to 4 hours away in the winter by car--or 7 hours if you want to make the trek to Tahoe--and unlimited hiking in different climate settings. Don't like hiking in the desert? Drive an hour and a half north and hike in Sedona or Oak Creek Canyon. You can explore lava fields 10 minutes outside of Flagstaff. You can hit the Lowell Observatory up at night for tours and a peep through their telescope. You can make your way over to Meteor Crater, camp out overnight and witness incredible meteor showers in summer months.

Truth be told, I'd trade Phoenix for ATL in a heartbeat, but I honestly can't deny that AZ has a ton of stuff to do and see, as long as you get out there and do it.

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I'm sold.....wait I already live here
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Re: Possibly moving to the Phoenix area...

I only live here to be near Jake. aw.
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