Friend and I where talking shop, and he mentioned this item that Amsoil has AMS-Oiler™ Oil Precharger I was very interested. Since most of the engine wear is done upon start up I figure this will build oil pressure and providing vital lubrication prior to starting.
What do you guys think? Anyone run one or ever have?
Also where would I be able to hook this up too for the oil return? I was going to supply the oil to this unit using a oil sandwich plate like this one oil Sandwich plate (Would rather have one from Toyota, like the one from the TRD supercharger) this will also provide a hook up for a oil pressure sensor for a oil pressure gauge I plan on installing.
Kinda pricey at $400 bucks. I think it is worth it since I am planning to keep my Fj for some time.
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The engine in the FJ should last at least 300,000 miles with reasonable maintenance and no Pre-Luber. I run synthetics and excellent quality filters to better my chances. Never felt the need for a pre-luber in any of the vehicles I maintain and I'm fairly anal about that stuff, althought I do understand the premise and think it is a great idea (especially on a -20F morning, or one that sits for weeks at a time).
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I've got a block heater in the FJ but it's pretty weak. Only 400 watts and only on one side. Better than nothing, but not optimal by any means. There is room on the other side to put one in but no hole is drilled. An oversight by Toyota in my opinion.
DEWFPO
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I just took a look at the AmsOiler/PreCharger. The specifications indicate it's only good to about -30F. I live in the mountains of Colorado where my vehicle sits outside every night. Many nights during the winter, the FJ endures temperatures of -40F - -30F with winds in excess of 80mps being fairly common.
I wouldn't mind the PreCharger, but am not sure whether it would burn the pump with too many starts below -30F. I submitted a question to Amsoil on the issue and will post the answer once I receive it.
I like the fantasy of getting 300,000-500,000 miles out of the Foxtrot Juliette.
I just took a look at the AmsOiler/PreCharger. The specifications indicate it's only good to about -30F. I live in the mountains of Colorado where my vehicle sits outside every night. Many nights during the winter, the FJ endures temperatures of -40F - -30F with winds in excess of 80mps being fairly common.
I wouldn't mind the PreCharger, but am not sure whether it would burn the pump with too many starts below -30F. I submitted a question to Amsoil on the issue and will post the answer once I receive it.
I like the fantasy of getting 300,000-500,000 miles out of the Foxtrot Juliette.
Hopefully, this PreCharger can contribute!
Regards,
Mike
Hi Mike,
I have a similar situation although I occassionally see -20F and the FJ sits outside as well. I installed the Toyota engine block heater, use 5W30 synthetic oil and plug it in to a combination 20F Thermocube and timer. This works fine for me. You may want to consider going to a 0W-30 synthetic oil even with the pre-luber. Mine has been starting up fine but a pre-luber can't hurt. Even using the engine block heater it takes a good while of driving before there's any heat in the cab. If you need to you can get a dual battery kit and install it since there's plenty of room in the FJ's engine compartment. I don't know how much of a draw the pre-luber puts on the battery, but at -30-40F any draw will put a strain on the battery. I have also switched the transfer case and rear diff to synthetic. Super easy and fast.
DEWFPO (about 130 miles west of you).
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Original newspaper add placed by William Hepburn Russell, founder of the The Pony Express
I just took a look at the AmsOiler/PreCharger. The specifications indicate it's only good to about -30F. I live in the mountains of Colorado where my vehicle sits outside every night. Many nights during the winter, the FJ endures temperatures of -40F - -30F with winds in excess of 80mps being fairly common.
I bet you very very rarely get below -30F. That would be a record low in most months. Wind chill doesn't count. What is your elevation?
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Look for oil pan heaters, drop the pan, add a bung...some may even go in via the drain plug. The issue is simple getting the oil warm enough to pump well. Do I know where to find them............no, sorry. But I know they are out there.
Prelube pumps are commonly used in industrial and commercial applications, especially something like a giant Waukesha V-16. The cost of the motor - hundreds of thousands and up - makes the use of a prelube system a no brainer
If you consistently run winter temps of -30 F and colder, especially the -40 to -50 mark, a "regular" 5W-30 is absolutely a no-no. The SAE J-300 spec only requires a conventional 5W-xx to be "good" to -30 C, or around -22 F, and there is enough standard deviation allowed in the test to put you at risk of increased start up wear. Some oil companies also document this, see page 3 of the following:
I run Mobil 1 0W-20 in my Prius as a "winter" oil, and will next year run it year round. The used oil analysis has been very good with this oil.
Running a 5W-xx oil, my FJ had pretty bad shear. Running Esso XD-3 0W-40, no shear. Put in Mobil 1 5W-20 as a winter oil, will sample soon to determine if there is shear. If the shear is bad, the 0W-40 goes back in
Running a lighter viscosity than "recommended" is fine in bitter cold temps, as the motor will rarely get up to proper operating temp. Oil pan heaters have a lot of application in commercial use, where a motor will run a 15W-40 year round. They're a PITA for cars, unless you're consistently colder than -45 F, run a light synthetic instead.
If you want to do a neat science experiment, put a temperature sender in the back of a V block. In summer, the block will have pretty uniform temp.
In winter, the back of the V block (V6 or V8) will never warm up, especially at -40. I've used mechanical gauges and at -40, even running a winter front, the needle will never move from the bottom peg
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If you have never been to Colorado in the winter-Fraser, Gunnison, and the San Luis Valley get to -50F/-60F at least once a winter. There have been many a month where you never see positive numbers on the thermometer, just keeping the record straght. The elevation of those places all varies between 7.5k and 9k feet
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