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Old 10-16-2008, 06:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question GT+ Tuner Box (Performance/Efficiency Issue)

The concept of snake oil I understand. Nevertheless, once in a while, a product that LOOKS like snake oil turns out to be the real McCoy. After researching this product, I'm curious; could it defy the odds? Has anyone tried it? What of the premises stated by the manufacturer? Could it be the real McCoy? Is it worth the approximate $25 risk, or is simply the snake oil I fear? Thoughts???

JERMBO PRODUCTIONS GT+ TUNER BOX


(See Jermbo Productions - Makers of the GT+ TunerBox )

"The GT+ Tuner Box is our latest and greatest performance module. Feel the power AND save fuel in the process! Every chip that you purchase will be engineered and sent specifically for your vehicle - don't be fooled by some sellers that sells generic chips! Our performance modules are made with only the highest quality materials such as weather-sealed flame retardant outer enclosures, durable waterproof overlays and 180˚ Fahrenheit rated wiring.

We are a leader inperformance modules; read on to see why we've become the best in this industry! We're so confident that you'll love our new and improved GT+ TunerBox, if you're not completely happy with your purchase, then we'll refund you 100% of your purchase price! There is absolutely ZERO risk to you! NO other sellers offer this kind of risk-free purchase, PERIOD - Guaranteed! So what are you waiting for?

The way our performance modules work is by sending a modified signal through a factory sensor in the engine compartment. This signal alters the computer and the computer then reprograms itself for a more efficient air/fuel mixture. Your vehicle from the factory may come too rich or too lean - meaning too much fuel (rich) or not enough fuel (lean). By modifying the air/fuel mixture to a more efficient mixture, you tap into hidden performance, and by gaining performance in your vehicle, you do not have to push the gas pedal down as hard to get up to speed, so fuel savings an inherent result.

We are essentially getting the same effects that a $300.00 handheld tuner makes without writing to the computer directly, thus making it MORE safe and dependable. You may be thinking "What is the difference between this performance module and a $300.00 handheld tuner?" The way an expensive $300.00 handheld tuner works is by modifying and rewriting the computer directly by plugging into the OBDII port underneath your dash. The main downside (besides the very expensive price tag) is that a handheld tuner has to completely rewrite your PCM (Power Control Module, this is the brain of your vehicle)! There is always a good chance that your PCM will become corrupt while the handheld tuner is downloading (if there is any power interruptions, it will stop downloading - the computer will then be half-written and the car won't start) and would require a tow to the dealership to get the PCM repaired.

Not only this, but your dealership can see that the computer has been rewritten by a handheld tuner as many leave footprints in the computer memory. Many dealerships check for this during normal service, routine maintenance and warranty work and could VOID your warranty for using a handheld tuner as they write to the PCM module directly. Since the effects of the GT+ TunerBox are not permanent when uninstalled, you can simply remove it and the computer will then reprogram itself back into factory specifications automatically, leaving NO footprints in the memory since it doesn't write to the computer directly.

When you are to test your GT+ TunerBox, simply tell us what type of vehicle you have in your PayPal payment notes box and we'll make sure we send you the correct item for your vehicle!! We believe in our product so much that your risk-free purchase comes with a 100% Satisfaction Guarantee - if you're not happy with the product, return it to us for a full refund.

The GT+ TunerBox comes with 2 different warranties: a 30 Day Money Back Guarantee and a 90 Day Replacement Warranty. The 30 Day Warranty covers the buyers satisfaction. Try it for 30 days (from date of delivery) and if you are not happy with it, return it for a 100% full refund.

SOME BENEFITS REPORTED BY CLIENTS:

○ Get up a 20% increase in MPG, HP and torque
○ Improved & smoother low, mid & top end acceleration & power
○ Smoother idle (which may cure some rough idle issues!)
○ Smoother shifting in both automatic & manual transmissions
○ Improved climbing & passing ability
○ Crisper throttle response
○ Cleaner spark plugs (enhance the life of your engine!)
○ Lengthen the time between costly engine tune-up's
○ Improved 1/8th mile, 1/4 mile & autocross track times
○ Improve your MPH while towing uphill
○ 100% street legal
○ Save money by saving fuel! Our kit pays for itself!

WITH YOUR PURCHASE YOU WILL RECEIVE:

○ 1 (one) GT+ TunerBox
○ 1 (one) Set of Detailed Installation Instructions
○ 1 (one) Zip Tie (post installation)
○ 5 Star 24/7/365 Technical Support (via e-mail)
○ 30 Day & 90 Day Warranties (proper information cards need to be returned in order to receive these warranties)

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS:

○ Q. Will this performance kit work on my engine?
A: The GT+ TunerBox works on all sizes of all 1990-present Inline 4 or 6 Cylinders, V6, V8 and V10 motors with the exception of diesel engines and turbo / supercharged gasoline engines.


○ Q. Will this void my factory warranty and is it street legal?
A: This IS street legal, however, any aftermarket part installed that alters emission control systems (including the IAT, MAP, and MAF sensors) will completely void manufacturer's warranty on the entire vehicle if such part is found on vehicle by dealership. We are honest sellers and want our customers to know this information before buying!! Other sellers will say that their product will not void the factory warranty so WATCH OUT!!!


○ Q. Do you have a return policy? Is there any type of warranty?
A: Yes! Your purchase comes with a 90 Day Replacement Warranty which covers any defects in workmanship or failure from normal use. It does not cover incorrect installation or product tampering. You also get a 30 Day Money Back Guarantee. If you're not happy with our product, then simply return it to us within 30 days for a full refund of your original purchase price!"


(See Jermbo Productions - Makers of the GT+ TunerBox )

EDIT: see Post No. 7 below; this is just a "resistor blackbox," like so many other alleged performance chips, gas saving efficiency chips, fuel savers, performance modules, etc.; they are all worth about a dollar, just for the fun of seeing how marketing can be so deviously deceptive.
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Re: GT+ Tuner Box (Performance/Efficiency Issue)

give it a try and report back....
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Re: GT+ Tuner Box (Performance/Efficiency Issue)

Well, clearly that is an option; but I'd hoped others might have already done so.
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Re: GT+ Tuner Box (Performance/Efficiency Issue)

As best I can tell from their website, the 'black box' modifies the signal from the IAT (Intake Air Temp) Sensor or the ECT (Engine Coolant Temp) Sensor, depending on application. That can be dangerous without it taking into account any of the other information that the myriad of sensors are providing to the ECM real time.

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Good luck - fingers crossed -

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Re: GT+ Tuner Box (Performance/Efficiency Issue)

No one's tried this thing?
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Re: GT+ Tuner Box (Performance/Efficiency Issue)

IT'S SNAKE OIL!

I wrote the manufacturer, asking tough questions about what the product really entailed and why it wasn't just a POS resistor blackbox like so many other product on e-bay, etc., that just fool the engine re temperature and cause more problems than solutions. Here is the response:

"As you may have noticed, there are a few other sellers on eBay who also have a similar item under the same title. Our item is exactly the same as theirs. The idea of using a series of resistors to alter the temperature signal has been around for some time now. If they do not work, it would be evident that they would not still be up for sale. Just by looking over our feedback, anyone can see that these do intact [sic] work, although they are not for every vehicle. We have noticed on some makes where this item has not worked. These vehicles get removed to prevent future problems. The quote that is found in the picture is from an actual customer. We made sure we had his permission before adding it to the photo. We get comments like his from time to time which is nice. We will be working on getting more added to our listing so that other [sic] can see what people are saying about our item. But back to our item. It would be great if this works for you especially when you have others who would buy as well.

In you [sic] email, you mentioned that our gain was high, but we feel that's 20% increase is a out right [sic]. So if you are getting only 20 mpgs right now, a gain of a out 4 mpgs would be about right. However, we also state that you can get UP TO this 20% increase. We do not guarantee our gains like all of the other sellers do. That would be rediculous [sic]!! Our item is much more accurate, because weather conditions, driving habbits, and other engine add ons can change this percentage.
Just like the other sellers, we have a full refund option available that we encourage our customers to take advantage of if they are not happy with our item.

What sets us apart is our website. We actually have one unlike the other sellers. We are currently working on a very special support section that has specific install instructions for each vehicle
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Re: GT+ Tuner Box (Performance/Efficiency Issue)

So I bought this chip about 3 months ago and just ran across your thread. I gave this thing a chance thinking I could always get my money back if it was a joke. I am not sure who you talked to when you contacted the company but I did the same thing as you. I sent some questions to really see if it was legit and then I figured I would give it a try.

Much to my surprise I have had about a 15% increase in my MPG. So that was good enough for me to keep it and I figure I have already paid for the item and now I am just saving more at the pump. As for performance I am not so sure about their claims.
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Re: GT+ Tuner Box (Performance/Efficiency Issue)

i installed this chip today, there is no specific instruction, the cd that comes with this has expired password and username.
after contacting 48 hrs ago no contact back
finally figure it out on my own with help of manual that is on this forum,
will post back on the mpgs and performance after testing to see if this is scam or for real
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