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Old 02-01-2007, 08:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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VSC - Doesn't like ice?

As it snowed last night, the streets this morning were the usual icy mess, but I noticed something about the VSC. I used 4x4 to get out of neighbourhood as the streets were snow covered and slippery, but when I entered the main roads, I took my vehicle out of 4x4 to use VSC. But, on some sections of the roadway, when I accelerated, I could feel and see my back end slip but no light or noise from the dash area at all. I know VSC has worked in the past as my back alley where I live is ice covered and VSC kicks in when I leave in the morning, but why not on the main roadway? Is it possible that both rear wheels were spinning equally so that VSC would not kick in at that point? I used 4 high for the rest of my drive in and that worked out quite well, but just curious about the VSC thing. Thanks!

Oh, I have an AT, Canadian base B package.
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Old 02-01-2007, 08:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: VSC - Doesn't like ice?

it wouldn't be based upon equal wheelspin.....there is a sensor in the middle of the truck (near the emergency brake) that senses sideways movement, and that is what makes it kick in. It's strange that yours didn't, IMO.

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Old 02-01-2007, 08:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: VSC - Doesn't like ice?

I think the reason it did not activate is because you were still on your intended path.

What the computer does is look at the angle of the steering wheel (your input) and compare it to the actual direction of the momentum of the truck and since your back was slipping it did not change your trajectory and you where still in your intended path. It was not enough of a change in direction of the truck to activated it.
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Old 02-01-2007, 11:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: VSC - Doesn't like ice?

I've been experimenting with it, mostly it's impressive, but sometimes I feel like I'm left holding the bag. Just got back from a late night run to the store, with nobody on the road for me to bash into, I gave the pedal a bit pulling out onto the road on a fairly slippery surface. There was a lot of correction on my initial wheelspin. As I crossed the wide street and turned left, the back broke out big and it took a lot of steering input to keep things on the road. But there has been other times where I didn't see a patch of ice and then the back is starting to go off quick and things are magically brought back together.

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Re: VSC - Doesn't like ice?

Do you have a AT or MT? I'm guessing AT cause I can't seem to get a nice four wheel slide unless i'm on the dirt with the center diff locked
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Do you have a AT or MT? I'm guessing AT cause I can't seem to get a nice four wheel slide unless i'm on the dirt with the center diff locked
Good guess. I've never been able to get it into a good four wheel slide and that's the kind of thing I used to live for. Couple days after I got the FJ, an hour or so after seiously denting the front skid plate, but that's another story, I was going home down a gravel road that had a lot 90 degree corners. On each of those I tried to do a nice controlled slide as I had done is so many cars before. But nothing gave, I felt cheated, so in the last one I really went for it - holy s**t. The backend came around really fast, things were beeping real loud and I hought I had really scr*wed the pooch. The VCS, or dumb luck, must have brought it back together. Just wish it worked in 4H.

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Re: VSC - Doesn't like ice?

Mine doesn't work at all in conditions I first thought was light black ice - but in fact the surface was covered in de-icer...which is 10x slicker than the ice in my opinion. I was actually fishtailing around the corners (couldn't figure it out at first), VSC did try but with little luck. Once I got the junk off the tires (not easy) VSC worked just like always.

I know de-icers can be a very useful item, but whatever they used up here this year leaves a very slick and persistent residue.
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Re: VSC - Doesn't like ice?

I have the 6MT so it is fulltime AWD. I have noticed that there is definitely a “sporting” bias or calibration to the VSC. I can powerslide the rear end out about 2 feet before it starts to reel in the fun. It is about the perfect balance of having fun without getting your anus all puckered up. I can actually steer it with the throttle a bit just like a RWD car. It is quite fun.
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Re: VSC - Doesn't like ice?

There are two different systems for the traction control system. The VSC only becomes active (aka the little yellow light with skid marks) when the car is fishtailing or the front is skidding out. When the 'trac' is active, there are no indicator lights only a slight pulsing feeling in the accelerator area and you might hear some clicking noises. Trac helps by acting like a limited slip differential through brake activation on the slipping wheel in 2h mode on the auto and 4hh mode on the 6mt
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Old 12-13-2007, 04:48 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: VSC - Doesn't like ice?

*I had a question about this, and insted of starting a new one, I'll bring a old one back.*


I know that the VSC is supposed to click, that is it functioning. But is this bad for the rig? Does it put strain on any thing? (mainly concernd about diff's) We have had snow for about 2 week's now, and every morning I purposly gun it to slide all over, on the way to work. (not to mention the 30 mph donut's in the parking lot) Just woundering if this is bad for anything to be doing this.

(it is a A/T if that makes a difference)
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