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ohhhhh I see - so when you perceive there to be a real problem - body rips under the hood - theeeeeen a class action is warranted. Talk about 'talking out both sides of your mouth'.......
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Yeah, 'cause exposed glass, that is going to get chipped up naturally by driving a vehicle (On every vehicle ever created that uses glass for a windshield not just the FJ), is so similar to Body panels ripping up under driving. Big difference there guy, but I appreciate your little stretch to justify your whining nature and your side of the argument. Also, Toyota is doing something about the ripping fenders because it is a real VALID issue that cannot be caused by normal wear and tear. You can't say the same for the "Windshield issue" because it is normal wear and tear.
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As for this non sense of "I know 10 people with cracked windshields and I will name them all for you". The fact is that it is likely a matter of demographics, as far as your chances are much greater for catching a rock. Again, in 17 years of driving, I have never had a cracked w/s. Nor has anyone in my faimy for that matter, nor do I recall any time recently any friends with cracked w/s. Would you like me to list their car models and average miles per year driven?  |
Hey, I never said 10 people, I said 11, come on man.
Lucky you, wait until you join the rest of the normal world where rocks exist on the highways and do get kicked up on a daily basis. I looked at the windshields of our fleet vans this morning, and guess what, the only ones that didn't have rock chips were the 3 new ones that have only got about 12 miles on them, and the 2 that just last week had new windshields put into them. None of these vans even have close to the angle that our windshields have.
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I will say it again - if you catch a rock going down the road - of course you are suseptible to getting a crakced w/s - but, AGAIN, there are lots of cases reported on here with a crack in the same exact spot, that there was NO (in my case) or very minimal impact. What do you want me to deduce the casue of my cracked w/s to be when I was driving down the road and NOTHING HIT IT??? Do you get that????? The guy that replaced my windshield that has been doing it for 20 years said it looked like a stress crack and that they replace a TON of FJ w/s like it.
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Did you ever think that maybe we get chips in the same spots because of how air flows over the FJ? And also in where the Pits are in relation to the rear tires on the vehicle ahead of you? I continually get hit in the same 5 inch circle of area in my F150. all of the chips on my FJ are on the passanger and drivers side areas, about 4-5 inches diagonally up from the lower corners. Its actually reliable in where I will get chips on it.
And again. Vertical windshield. You want a redesign of the glass, guess what, the FJ will look a hell of a lot different afterwards.
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NO - a car w/s SHOULD NOT be replaced even once a year. If you think that is acceptable, you need to re-evaluate your standards of acceptable.
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Again, vertical windshield. Any vehicle that has one is going to need to be replaced more frequently. Its what naturally happens when you bounce things at high speed off of a near flat glass pane.
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Lastly, your insurance is not there to give you 3 w/s a year as long as you own an FJ, nor should they. Go ahead and take the "that's what insurance is for approach" on 3 or more w/s and see that you get dropped and your new premium raised.
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**** happens, but it doesn't justify a lawsuit in the case of Rock chips on a windshield. so far I have had 9, yes NINE windshields replaced on my vehicles in the last 4 years, My insurance hasn't said word one yet to me, and when they do, so be it. Its wear and tear. I also am not one of the guys that freaks about a little chip and decides to replace a windshield that doesn't need replacing.
A lot of those whining about the "Windshield issue" are OCD about the little chips. Once it is a crack it gets replaced, but not little chips like we have seen some people replacing over.
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At least we agree on our disdain for lawyers and I agree with you on the getting $1.19. But it aint about that - it's about forcing Toyota to deal with an issue they have with this w/s and correct the problem.
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Yes, we seem to agree, but who is the one that wants to feed them and the Sue happy way of life they are leading America to embrace? Sure as **** isn't me.
On top of all of this, I hope us arguing like the internet retards we are is at least providing some humor to those that are just reading. It must be like watching the pole vault at the special olympics.
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