as you can see i got this from tacoma forum these are the stores to not put money in when you visit moab anti access business so piss on them
Print this like i did and when your hungry and tired make sure your money does not end up in these people business make them go under. How stupid is it to hate the business of off roaders and access to the areas when your town is the mecha of off roading what a bunch of dumb as@@@@@@@@@@@@@
as you can see i got this from tacoma forum these are the stores to not put money in when you visit moab anti access business so piss on them
Print this like i did and when your hungry and tired make sure your money does not end up in these people business make them go under. How stupid is it to hate the business of off roaders and access to the areas when your town is the mecha of off roading what a bunch of dumb as@@@@@@@@@@@@@
a) its Toyota Territory Off-Roaders Association...not just Tacoma's
b) My family has been in Napa Valley 100 years. Way before winery's and tourists and we wish they would go away. I can see their point (not sure I would go about it that way tho...)
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these business due not want four wheels to access land for off road use they voted to governer that they want to ban access to these great off road area in moab in there own town.
Yes this came from ttora which is open to all toyota off road vechiles know. Not just tacomas
After I read the what ever it is called it didn't realy seem like much of a anty access proposel but rather for roads/improvments not allowed in sertan areas. I could be wrong and would love to see what every one thinks about what was said.
__________________ "Because in the end it has almost nothing to do with the bike and everything to do with setting
out to accomplish something that is intimidating, that is unknown to you, something you know you
have a good chance of failing at but doing it anyways and slowly but surely proving yourself wrong." Mike Ambs
www.corva.org "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
- Thomas Paine
I'd make sure on the list before getting to wild. The owner of Moabilia is a member and past president of the Red Rock 4 Wheelers and supports off roading.
In one of my last club newsletters the mentioned that some of the businesses on this list never signed it but unknowingly answered some vague questions on the phone and later found out that they were on the list. There are also a couple of businesses that have new owners that do support four wheeling also.
you do realise that list is 2 years old
and that the foundation behind it was SUWA or southern Utah wilderness alliance
when the list came out, and it was printed in a letter welcoming the new governor into office in a Salt Lake City Newspaper. Several Access groups jumped on it within a day
I spent a week in Moab interviewing owners and managers who were hoodwinked by the letter, the were brought in to beleive they were signing a letter to welcome in the governor as a business group and in no way thought they were to sign a anti access letter, others on the list are in full argreement with it.
We will state that the reprecussions from the list being posted on every website that was worth it's low range in the 4x4 community brought on quick recantments by over 2/3rds of the guys who signed and that year window banners were in many windows recnating as boycotts were showing the power of the 4x4 community.
Bringing up the letter today is rubbing salt in the wounds of businesses that would rather see it all just go away, after all why would businesses that rely on 4x4ers money to stay open, sign that letter openly.
It is old news that has already been handled and needs to die.
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well it is good to know i was told not from just from this post but by a friend about this in moab and beware when i go.
If i was wrong and they got shaft sorry for old wounds, a newbie asking a couple of things about do and nots while in moab led to bad info.
Apologize put out so no more flame or harshment this was brought to me by again by my dumb as@@@@@@@@@ friends who thought they where helping and did not again. I need new friends with brains
you want to really do something to help
first go to Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance: SUWA Homepage
and read their bull doodoo about how they are saving the land, and learn to recognise their dirty underhanded tactics
then Join Tread Lightly - Home
and other organizations that are pro access.
tread lightly has government support and is becoming one of the largest voices in pro access, plus it's number one reason to be there is to educate people how to tread lightly so we can keep open our public lands
avoid these anti off road business in moab
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