Interested in the new Toyota Tundra? Stop in at the Toyota Tundra Forum @ www.tundratalk.net!
Toyota FJ Cruiser Header Background Toyota FJ Cruiser Header Right

» Search Used Cars
Search for used vehicles by ZIP, please enter Zipcode below:
Google Links


» Wheel & Tire Center

Google Ads

Sponsors

Go Back   Toyota FJ Cruiser Forum > Toyota FJ Cruiser Discussion > General Discussion
Register Home Forum Active Topics Photo Gallery Chat Blogs Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

General Discussion This area contains general discussion regarding the Toyota FJ Cruiser that does not fit into the other technical discussion forums.


       
Registered Members do not see the above ads. Please Register Today - It's quick and free!
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-07-2006, 09:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
JFF
Forum Regular
 
JFF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Member Number: 1262
Location: MA
Posts: 249
Question Reverse logic, need to come down 4-5 inches

Yes, I want to know how to lower the FJ?
As crazy as this seems in this forum, I'm going to brave the waters - like I did earlier today crossing the road which had become a river here in Eastern Massachusetts, fun stuff, especially the look of panic as other drives approached the moving water... I have a friend who uses a wheelchair, loves the FJ and he tried out mine, in order for him to pull in his wheelchair which is great with the suicide doors for wheelchair or tater-tot girl access. He needs to lower the cabin / body 4-5 inches so the front wheels of his chair will rest inside the lip of the vehicle while he scoots between the seats and pulls the chair in behind the drivers seat. I know everyone knows how to add lift kits and raise vehicles, now I'm looking for advice in going the other way. Can the FJ be lowered safely without screwing up the ride, handling or anything else? Ideally, an air powered hydraulic system would be ideal, that could be lowered to gain entry and then raised up once underway. I know the Range Rover has a system that lowers the vehicle - usually on the highway and then raises back up for off roading. I'd really like to stay away from Rover prices, maybe there are other systems out there that will do the trick. The cheapest way would be to swap out the wheels, but I'm having a hard time picturing the FJ with lowprofile rims and wheels, looking like a pimp'ed out Esclade.

Your help, humor, and whitisism, is always welcome, please include any rough estimates on prices or cost of lowering the FJ. THANKS JF - more reverse logic/ initials.
JFF is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 06-07-2006, 09:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
Forum Master
 
t2cruiser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Member Number: 1630
Location: Dallas,Texas
Posts: 1,387
Lifetime Supporting Member
Re: Reverse logic, need to come down 4-5 inches

Search 'air suspensions' on Google for tons of info. This is not a far fetched idea and could proof to be a great mod for wheelchair users. Air bag systems are quite tough, universal in heavy trucks and lots of retrofit systems for cars and trucks. Check out the Hot Rod guys, they could surely hook your friend up.

The FJ wheel clearance would accommodate 4-5, 6"? drop no problem.

Can't wait to see the photos!

Hmmmm, airbags in an FJ....not just for wheelchairs!
t2cruiser is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-24-2006, 09:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
Forum Veteran
 
MichEE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Member Number: 7210
Location: Michigan
Posts: 756
Re: Reverse logic, need to come down 4-5 inches

I use a wheelchair and the openess of access is the reason I bought it... I actually get it tomorrow.

I know of several people that have done lowering but not an FJ. Not sure if I understand your reasoning - maybe it is too late in the day!! Why do the wheels of the wheelchair need to "rest on the inside of the vehicle?"

I can post a video of me getting in and out but I am having a hard time understanding the entry process here... sorry.
__________________
What's your excuse??? Ti, 5AT, Hand Controls, hitch, 10sNE1?
MichEE is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2006, 12:54 AM   #4 (permalink)
Forum Master
 
MoSun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Member Number: 3198
Location: Missouri
Posts: 1,476
Re: Reverse logic, need to come down 4-5 inches

Quote:
JFF previously said: View Post
Yes, I want to know how to lower the FJ?
. The cheapest way would be to swap out the wheels, but I'm having a hard time picturing the FJ with lowprofile rims and wheels, looking like a pimp'ed out Esclade.

Your help, humor, and whitisism, is always welcome, please include any rough estimates on prices or cost of lowering the FJ. THANKS JF - more reverse logic/ initials.
Another brave soul willing to bare all.
Thats what I like about this forum, the honesty.

Go low my friend and good luck.
__________________
It appears as though we will be required to ignite the midnight petroleum.

Please join the FJ Cruiser Group on YouTube.
http://www.youtube.com/group/FJCruiser
MoSun is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2006, 02:43 AM   #5 (permalink)
Forum Superstar
 
thugasaur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Member Number: 691
Location: Norwalk , Ca
Posts: 1,712
Blog Entries: 2
Send a message via AIM to thugasaur Send a message via Yahoo to thugasaur
Re: Reverse logic, need to come down 4-5 inches

as i read the posts here i listen to my itunes and i started reading this one and "low rider" started to play i just thought this was so funny

ok my tangent is done
__________________
Chefj's Little known facts: Thugasaur tracked down, strangled, and gutted the Snuggle fabric softener bear because he once had a towel that was...well...not so soft.

UBFM member #00 enforcer

"Church" V2.0
2007 Voodoo 5AT 4x4
______________________
AFE cai , kenwood excelon 889 , xm2go, piaa extreme super whites , demello front skid plate and rock rails and aero flow lens covers (THANKS GUYS!) , all-pro front sway bar links
thugasaur is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2006, 03:32 AM   #6 (permalink)
Forum Superstar
 
Chatsworth 818 FJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Member Number: 1770
Location: Chatsworth (duh) S.F.V.,Ca. 818
Posts: 2,412
Supporting Member
Re: Reverse logic, need to come down 4-5 inches

I know for a fact toyota has a program to set up cars to be accessible its on there sight, they customise it in house.
__________________
Black Diamond 4x4 AT QC UR C7 V5 Z2, Low-Jack ,On 33" Nitto mud grappler, Fox Shox front, 3" Revtek lift rear, Pro-comp Xtreme Steel rims, PIAA Mirror lights, TRD Cold air intake, N-fab nerf bars, Road Armor Titan bumper with K.C. Rally 800-pencil beams/ PIAA 510 ION Fog lights, Manik tail light guards, Bushwacker fender flares and Black Diamond trim.
Chatsworth 818 FJ is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2006, 09:57 AM   #7 (permalink)
Forum Veteran
 
Paul K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Member Number: 1515
Location: La Grande, OR
Posts: 512
Re: Reverse logic, need to come down 4-5 inches

Might be easier with a 2WD FJ?
__________________
'07 FJ Cruiser
'04 Mini Cooper S
'89 Porsche 911 Carrera Targa

Gone but not forgotten;
'00 Range Rover 4.6 HSE (Sold 6/06)
'96 Land Rover Discovery (Sold 3/04)
Paul K is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2006, 11:24 AM   #8 (permalink)
Forum Regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Member Number: 1473
Posts: 166
Re: Reverse logic, need to come down 4-5 inches

I think it would be cooler (and hopefully cheaper) to put hydraulics on the wheelchair to raise the wheelchair...as opposed lowering the FJC with hydraulics.
__________________
Future FJ Cruiser Owner
haulin79 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2006, 11:30 AM   #9 (permalink)
Forum Regular
 
AddOp's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Member Number: 2704
Location: NJ
Posts: 223
Re: Reverse logic, need to come down 4-5 inches

Okay, I have to start by saying - don't take my word for it and I know nothing.

Now, as I measure the wheel well, the tightest spot is eight inches in front of the vertical centerline. And there is only 4-inches there before rubber hits "steel". And if you turned the front tire it would be less.

So, 1) front can't be lowered even 3 ~ 4 inches without serious steel re-work.

Now, the back looks like there is a lot of room but, as you climb under the rubber axle bumper (inside the spring) has a gap of 2+ inches before it touches the axle "surface" and maybe there is more compression available in the rubber cone bushing (another inch?). As I look at the rest of the linkage under there - I wouldn't want to go more than 3-inches lower without getting very serious about all that and I'm talking beyond just springs and shocks - stabilizing linkage ....

So, 2) rear can't be lowered more than 2 ~ 3 inches without serious consideration.

Conclusion: from a quick glance I'd say you can go 2-inches lower all around by buying shorter springs and you'll feel the rear when you hit a bump - and I guess that would mean different shocks to match?

And I do hope someone in the hands on business (not just blueprints) can contradict all this and help you modify the thing.

One thing I have learned is nothing is impossible - it might cost though.

Recommend, not staying low (from my look see) I agree with only temporary lowering for access.
AddOp is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2006, 05:14 PM   #10 (permalink)
Forum Regular
 
AddOp's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Member Number: 2704
Location: NJ
Posts: 223
Re: Reverse logic, need to come down 4-5 inches

This post deserves a bump once or twice today to get sommore California input. (I, I'm a veg danny ........ )
AddOp is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply


  Toyota FJ Cruiser Forum > Toyota FJ Cruiser Discussion > General Discussion




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0.0

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:14 PM.

  • AutoForums.com
  • Truck
  • European
  • Import
  • Domestic
  • Manufacturer

AutoForums.com is the premier network of enthusiast-owned enthusiast-operated automotive communities.
We operate more than 100 automotive forums where our users consult peers for shopping information and advice, and share experiences and opinions as a community.

Visit AutoForums.com today.

For advertising information, please visit our AutoForums.com website and Contact Us, or send an email message to sales@autoforums.com.