fix your quality

1983FJ60 · 10-22-2009, 12:15 PM

transmission out at 53000 miles and now the head gasket is leaking. interior plastic is cracked like a 10 year old car.

what the hell?

when i notified toyota's customer care, they just gave me a "thanks for calling, your input is helpful" reply.

SupraTuRD · 10-22-2009, 12:20 PM

Is the warranty going to take care of you?

1983FJ60 · 10-22-2009, 12:22 PM

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SupraTuRD previously said:

Is the warranty going to take care of you?

thankfully yes and in full, otherwise i'd be mad AND disappointed.

bandi · 10-22-2009, 12:23 PM

warranty may fix it, but if he only gets another
53k out of it, that mean at around 100k, it' will
be trash !...

I feel the same thing about mt TO bearing issue,
sure they fixed it 2 times, but what happens to
me after the warrranty...

1983FJ60 · 10-22-2009, 12:25 PM

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bandi previously said:

warranty may fix it, but if he only gets another
53k out of it, that mean at around 100k, it' will
be trash !...

I feel the same thing about mt TO bearing issue,
sure they fixed it 3 times, but what happens to
me after the warrranty...

that's exactly how i feel, even more so since my 60 series made it 250,000 miles without a serious FUBAR.

71roadrunner · 11-03-2009, 08:13 AM

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bandi previously said:

warranty may fix it, but if he only gets another
53k out of it, that mean at around 100k, it' will
be trash !...

I feel the same thing about mt TO bearing issue,
sure they fixed it 2 times, but what happens to
me after the warrranty...

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Exactly ! I've posted a few times in the thread re: T.O. bearing. I've been buying vehicles for over 40 years (4x4 everythings, 60's muscle cars, English sports cars, you name it and most had sticks). The only problem I've ever encountered in the clutch area was me hammering something like a Hemi stick car too hard and wearing out a clutch disc too fast ! That was something I knew I was doing to it and replacing a clutch in those vehicles was expected (like wearing out brake shoes). But this T.O. bearing issue is different. I consider this a very poor engineering design.

I've recently retired and bought my '09 stick shift FJ with the intent of keeping it for a very long time. The threads on the fender apron cracks were disturbing enough. Now the posts on this T.O. bearing are truly pi__ing me off. It's not so much the fact that it's happening as the fact that it's been going on for a number of model years. This is inexcusable on Toyo's part. This T.O. brg crap in not just an annoyance, it's a real mechanical problem as posted by some owners. Some of these bearings are starting to sieze to the shaft/collar and not fully releasing after you take your foot off the clutch. And this has been going on for a number of years (including the Tacomas) !?!? And some of the dealers are playing the "DUH, I never heard of such a thing" routine ? Or how about the dealers who are saying "you took this thing off road because we can see evidence of moisture in there". You've got to be kidding me ! I can only imagine what will happen after the warranty expires.

Thank you Toyota. I trusted your reputation and flopped down a ton of coin for one of your new vehicles believing I would have a trouble free truck for a long, long time. With this 'ignore it and maybe it will go away' attitude you'll soon be joining the likes of the Detroit automakers who screwed up via Q.C. issues.

At least 'man up' and admit your screw up and provide a real and permanent fix for this.

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DoWork · 11-03-2009, 08:58 AM

No problems or complaints here

71roadrunner · 11-03-2009, 09:43 AM

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DoWork previously said:

No problems or complaints here

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Eventually you will. There is no getting around the fact that the design is rotten. A steel bearing assembly riding on a (non replaceable) aluminum pilot shaft is a bad design. Sooner or later it will puke. Period.

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DoWork · 11-03-2009, 10:08 AM

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Eventually you will. There is no getting around the fact that the design is rotten. A steel bearing assembly riding on a (non replaceable) aluminum pilot shaft is a bad design. Sooner or later it will puke. Period.

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I doubt it and if it does no worse then any other vehicle. I could care less if my fenders have a crack in them or if my seat sinks. Compared to other vehicles the FJ is in a league of its own. Do you all expect the FJ to be completely trouble free? I know it sucks when a transmission goes out early like that buy for the general population big problems like that will never happen.

**BlackCherryota** · 11-03-2009, 10:54 AM

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71roadrunner previously said:

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Eventually you will. There is no getting around the fact that the design is rotten. A steel bearing assembly riding on a (non replaceable) aluminum pilot shaft is a bad design. Sooner or later it will puke. Period.

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Seriously man if you're that unhappy with the truck, take advantage of the FJs' excellent resale value and get rid of it. This goes for anyone.

Forums magnify small-scale problems like this 1,000,000x

I know it's frustrating that the problem exists and runs against the advertised reputation of quality that Toyota portrays, but this is not Soviet Russia, where the car owns you.