Concealed Handgun Mount

[EddieF]

rob_s previously said:

Eddie, I'm mostly hearing this back from guys that are returning from overseas, specifically contracting jobs.

I agree that it may require a lot of sand/grit/dirt whatever, but depending on how you use or where you drive your FJ that might not take long and/or one larger pebble could cause problems.

Personally, if I buy an FJ, I'm going to be most likely buying one of the Tuffy center console/armrest inserts, and I'd just mount a non-locking holster inside that. Something like a Blade Tech holster that also has screw holes in the back. That way the Tuffy box can also be locked if you need to leave your pistol in the car for whatever reason.

I wish I liked the look of that Tuffy box more than I do. Or I wish there was a lock for that compartment on the dash.

[LandCruiserSteve]

The Godfather previously said:

Sorry to bump an older thread, but any of you just carry it in your holster? I'm a peace officer, and I wouldn't really want to have it in plain view and have anyone, especially an officer who doesn't know who I am, roll up on me and see the butt of my gun.

Very good point, Godfather.

I've pointed this out in a number of other threads that the ideal (and safest) place to carry a weapon in one's FJ is on your person.

Armed encounters within vehicles typically result in the occupant/victim very quickly ending up outside of their car . . . . whether it's a carjacking (where the perpetrator already has the drop on you and you've been forced out), or an armed assault from further away (where you better be seeking cover outside your vehicle if you're unable to flee the area by driving away).

Too many police officers have become the victim of their own vehicles . . . . essentially becoming an exposed and immobile easy target while sitting in their car during an attack. Today's training has them immediately escaping this vulnerable position, seeking cover elsewhere and having the same advantage (if not better) that the attacker has. If his/her weapon wasn't on them at the time of this manuever, there would be no calling "time out" while they fumble about their vehicle attempting to retrieve a stored weapon.

No matter how efficient one's interior mounting device is, the weapon is absolutely no good to you once you're separated from it. And, that will happen much faster that you realize.


And, the other valid point you made is part of the weapon being seen by an LEO prior to you having the opportunity to identify yourself as a legitimate CCW holder and/or off-duty peace officer. Again, things may occur so quickly that a police officer will immediately react to the sight of a weapon (and not always favorably). The best that you can hope for, is that the officer's reaction is controlled and no one becomes hurt or killed.

[rob_s]

Agree on all parts Steve.

However, I used to work in retail firearms sales, and we had several officers buy separate, personally owned, handguns that they kept in the cruiser and off-body because they couldn't get to their holstered duty weapon when seated. The 10mm Glocks were popular for this purpose for awhile.

I've also been pulled over quite a few times and I always inform that I'm packing (although FL law doesn't require it) by showing my permit, and the reaction has ranged from a "okiee dokiee" to "please step out of the vehicle". I can't imagine it would go well if they spotted the pistol when walking up to the window.

[momeara]

Yeah, we send 'em your way or abandon them on ice flows...but with all this global warming, you might be seeing a lot more!

Attilla previously said:

I like that mount, it would come in handy in Canada, you know, bunch of stoned axe murderers.......

Judging by the way all of the Canadian retirees (Snowbirds) drive here in Arizona, no wander they all carry axes, probably a great tool to disable the car of an old fart that can't drive, I guess they get rid of them and send them here in the winter, and we reeeeeealy appreciate it, thanks.........

But they are good at hockey. Especially that Gretzky guy.

[LandCruiserSteve]

rob_s previously said:

Agree on all parts Steve.

However, I used to work in retail firearms sales, and we had several officers buy separate, personally owned, handguns that they kept in the cruiser and off-body because they couldn't get to their holstered duty weapon when seated.

Which is not a bad idea if you have a secondary weapon . . . . provided that your "primary" is with you.

[Wilkie]

I too have been thinking about different ways to carry while in the vehicle because my strong side holsters were not very comfy for any length of time.

I decided to use a Fobus cross draw because it holds my H&K securely and it is comfortable to wear while driving. It's actually called a "roto" holster because it can be rotated to any position.

https://secure.fobusholster.com/cata...roducts_id=155

Just another opinion..........
Wilkie

[rob_s]

Just understand that Fobus is not the highest quality option available.

YouTube - Why you don't use a kydex paddle holster

[Shadow-Warrior]

I agree with everything LCS (LandCruiserSteves) post. Myself, I can't drive for long periods with a weapon attached to my person, this is why I picked this place in the vehicle. Now, I also aggree you don't want the weapon in visual sight of anyone walking up to the vehicle by just looking in to the windows. Now, with that being said, I have very dark window tint on my rig, there is no way someone can walk up and see the weapon from any window in the vehicle. With both the driver and passenger side windows rolled down, you cannot still see the weapon. The picture because of the flash makes it look like its out in the open, this is just not the case. Once I get ready to stop somewhere, the weapon is transfered back to my person. I hope this helps some of the understanding. I do like the serpa for this application, there very well may be problems in Iraq with the holster, but lets face it, were not in Iraq. I have used it for a couple of years now, and find no problems with the Serpa system. As a duty weapon holster I use the Safari Tactical Drop Leg, it is another great weapon holster which keeps it secure. But this one incorperates a thumb push to roll over the retension lock of the weapon, which would not work real good in this application. This is why I chose the Serpa.

[uphill]

Weapon Retention vs General Storage & Availability

Speaking only for myself and from my limited experience, there is usually some notice of trouble before you are in the sort of trouble that requires the handgun out/in battery. ESPECIALLY in an off-duty/recreational setting, fools rush in where angels fear to tread.

I don't want to post on this forum what I intend to do or how I've prepared, but in any situation, I'm prepared to put ordnance on target. One thought is that a spare clip(s) should be carried in each of the door compartments (down by your feet) because if something should happen, you never know which side of the FJ you'll be on when you want to re-load.

MOST tactical situations don't require a re-load but it's not a bad idea just to throw a clip in each side of the FJ.

[FJDave]

Clip? What kind of gun are you carrying???

P.S. - I'm working OT at your favorite Asian Leprechaun's station right now. She says hi.