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Old 04-06-2008, 02:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Roof rack lightbar wiring setup part 1. Clean install, no drilling(w/photos)

I bought a pair of kc hi-lites the other day and also I purchased the tuffy light bar which should be here any day now. I went ahead and started the wiring process so it'll be ready to go when it gets here, hence why it's called part 1. Hopefully this helps somebody, and if somebody else already beat me to this, my apologies.

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- I didn't drill any holes to accomplish this, and it looks like a clean setup thus far.
- I did remove 1 bolt from the roof rack, and without the one bolt, it still feels incredibly sturdy, so I'm not at all concerned with the integrity of it holding up.
- Of course, your mileage may vary.
- I'm not a mechanic, just a bored software engineer who likes to take apart things, so if you break your FJ, I can't be held responsible

The tools I used. Pretty simple:


First thing I did was loosen all the bolts to the roof rack considerably. I then removed the two bolts holding in the driver side front.


Second, I removed the rubber padding on the driver side front, and I punctured a small hole in it. Enough for my wire to fit through.


I took my wire and pushed it through the bottom of the pad, and then up the small hole where the rubber pad clips into and then up to the first hole you see( I had to remove the plastic piece that was occupying the hole)


After threading the wire through, I was able to see the end of the wire and pull it through it's hole. I gently pulled it until I had more than an adequate amount of wire left over in case of boo boo's when I installed the lights.


Now, At this point, the wire is through, the rubber footing was back on. You then need to remove the A piller cover by removing the rubber caps from the handle, then removing the screws holding it in place. I found working it from top to bottom was the easiest. Gently applying pressure as you work your way down, there are two places where it's fastened to the metal. I was able to gently remove the A piller and reuse the bolts with no harm done.

It was now time to thread the wire. This part takes a bit of patience and a little luck, but I managed(a couple times actually due to a few errors ) In the photo below, I used the forward most hole, however, I actually ended up using the back hole. For whatever reason it seemed to work every time I threaded it. I shoved as much of it as I could and then I would take a peek(see the next photo).



If you gently peal back the rubber piece holding on the headliner, it'll reveal not only the airbag, but hopefully the wire you just threaded through. Again, it takes a bit of patience and luck, but here is how I pealed mine back:



This photo is a little over the top, but I was just showing how it'll look when you thread the wire through. You may have to try the threading process a few times, but eventually it'll come down. Also, I noticed on my headliner, being very gentle, I would pull it down, and I could go easily a half inch without damaging it. It seemed very forgiving, but again, use common sense I went ahead and found the wire and pulled it through. Now, you can see that it's wrapped around the airbag, which at this point is ok. You can pull the wire all the way through, towards the front of the vehicle and pull it up towards the front underneath the airbag without wrapping the wire around it.(see next photo).




This isn't the greatest of photos, but the tip of my cable is behind the white cable harness ... just dangling. The rest of the slack is hanging out side of the car, waiting to be gently pulled through:



For some reason my photos skipped a step! On the left hand side of the A piller, you can see straight down to the floor/gas pedals. At this point you can just fish the wire down to the floor. I used a black hose concealer that you can pick up at walmart for 4 bucks. just to make sure I wasn't touching other wires:


There is a panel you can remove that will give you access to your fuse box. In doing so, you can fish your wire through there, and up to your switch location, I gently squeezed the empty button placeholders until they both popped out:


I then measured and cut a hole the same diameter of the switch that came with the lights, used clear silicon to hold it into place, then put them back into place. I cut the hole for both, because I plan on doing this with the second set of lights. I actually cut the wire in half and did this exact same wiring for both.


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Old 04-06-2008, 02:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Oh, and some more photos ...

Here is the top view. I plan on going to home depot today and finding something to cover it up with. Maybe a penny? who knows


I shoved the rest of the wire back into the roofrack until the rest of my lights/lightbar comes in. You can hardly notice it.

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Re: Roof rack lightbar wiring setup part 1. Clean install, no drilling(w/photos)

How about just cutting the head off the bolt you removed, silicone the crap out of the hole and then just place the head of the bolt into the hole useing the silicone to hold it in place. It will look like the bolt is still there and was never messed with.

Sucks to be the next guy to pop it out unless you are the next guy and need to use the hole for additional wiring. Think of it as a CAP, not a bolt.
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Re: Roof rack lightbar wiring setup part 1. Clean install, no drilling(w/photos)

That's really nice and clean. I think I might have to go with something similar in the installation.
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How about just cutting the head off the bolt you removed, silicone the crap out of the hole and then just place the head of the bolt into the hole useing the silicone to hold it in place. It will look like the bolt is still there and was never messed with.

Sucks to be the next guy to pop it out unless you are the next guy and need to use the hole for additional wiring. Think of it as a CAP, not a bolt.
That's a good idea, I found some nice black circular caps, at home depot, no idea what their purpose is, and they were plastic. a little silicone and it did the trick. I figure if somebody needed to get at it bad enough they could just pop it off with a screw driver no problem.

I was pretty impressed with how easy everything came together. I was somewhat worried before I started at how big of a pain it would be to have a good clean install.
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I was suggesting using the Bolt Head as a cap for looks. You did such a clean job with the wiring it would be ashame to just put "something" up there to get by. The bolt head would make it look as if "no one" was ever there.
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Re: Roof rack lightbar wiring setup part 1. Clean install, no drilling(w/photos)

are you just going to ground the lights to the roof rack then?
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are you just going to ground the lights to the roof rack then?
Yea, there is a wiring diagram that says it's ok to ground it to the metal mounting clips(which it will be)
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damn sis I did this over my drilling in the
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Re: Roof rack lightbar wiring setup part 1. Clean install, no drilling(w/photos)

Quick warning from someone who has installed racks and lights on over a hundred FJ Cruisers so far:

This install may lead to a couple of issues you may discover after it rains, or after you wash the vehicle. The hole you used to route the wire will leak if the white nylon shield is removed. We have found this to be a source of many roof leaks when the dealer improperly installs a roof rack. In addition, the threaded bolt acts as a water block, too. And if that wire has not been insulated, you may end up with a short after it vibrates in the roof hole over time - and it will vibrate.

You should remove the mount, and fill the hole, and the entire area exposed, with butyl rubber to protect against leakage, and insulate the wire. Otherwise, you are likely to find a damp headliner, and water that will flow along the lower headliner to the rear and then drip down onto the floor under the rubber - something you might not notice until it has been there a while...

Second issue has to due with the wiring itself. Where is the ground wire ? You should not ground the lights to the roof itself, as you may induce electrolysis and actually cause paint to loosen over time. In addition, it might cause an inductive field that will interfere with radio reception / transmission, and cause noise in the audio system. The light ground should be brought into the vehicle and grounded as close to a factory ground spot as possible to minimize the above side effects. And depending on the number and wattage of the lights being installed, you may need more and larger gauge wiring to properly install the lights and prevent premature bulb failure, low output, and wires heating up from resistance to excess amp draw...
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