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Old 01-26-2008, 09:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Urgent - Nellis Dunes, Las Vegas 29-31 Jan 2008

BLM and Clark County are hosting public comment meetings on Nellis Dunes. Our goal is to have public comments on the proposed transfer of Nellis Dunes to Clark County and what recreation opportunities does the public want to participate in at Nellis Dunes.

Three meetings will be held from 6:00 -8:00 PM: Jan. 29 at North Las Vegas Library Community Room on 2300 Civic Center Drive; Jan. 30 at Clark County Government Center BCC Chambers on 500 S. Grand Central Pkwy.; and Jan. 31 at Henderson Convention Center Grand Ballroom B on 200S. Water Street.

Please come voice your opinion on Nellis Dunes. Thank you



Here are some facts concerning the County takeover of the Nellis Dunes.

“Trail fees are modeled at $3 per trip (per rider day). It is assumed that Clark County will use a number of revenue recapture methods, including, without limitation annual “green sticker” type fees. If Clark County were to use only green sticker fees similar to California, they would be anticipated to generate about $750,000 annually. It is likely, however, that these fees would support any number of off-road activities, not merely the Nellis Dunes project.” (Page 58 Market Analysis: Summary Report commissioned by Clark County, prepared by Applied Analysis)
This means that the off-road vehicle users at Nellis Dunes would be paying for additional county off-road activities and not be paying just for the use of the Nellis Dunes.

Gate fees are estimated to average $20 per trip (per rider day) and are applied to all motorcross tracks and ATV racing facilities. Gate fees at comparable facilities range from a low of $15 per day to a high of $40 per day depending on event timing, season, promotional activities, etc. Importantly, a $20 gate fee would be lower than average at the retail level. Most parks do not realize 100 percent of these fees, thus a discounting of this value is appropriate.
This means that, in addition to the $3 per trip fee to ride your off-road vehicle on the track, you will pay an additional fee to enter the facility. (Page 58, Market analysis)

According to the Market Analysis, pages 5 through 9: The following amenities will be built at the Nellis Dunes:
An integrated AVT trail System: Beginner Trails, Intermediate trails, advanced trails and SNRPC open space trails
Motocross (MX) Tracks: National outdoor track; national supercross track; beginner motocross (local track); intermediate motocross (world mini/Loretta Lynn); Motocross pit/staging area and Freestyle motocross area
4X4 areas: 1, 4-wheel drive trail and obstacle course. 2, 4-wheel drive rock climbing course
Other Active Uses: Intermediate ATV racing course; Advanced ATV racing course; ATV pit/staging area; Competition Skate Park; off-road training areas.
Supporting facilities: Parking; RV parking/camping areas; viewing areas; check-in pay-to play area; administration/hospitality center; concessions and restrooms; medical facilities; support facilities

According to Clark County’s power-point presentation: The southwest extent of the Nellis Dunes is within the non-attainment area for PM10 (dust). Due to the unrestricted use of the area under BLM management, currently very little is being done to minimize and mitigate the creation of dust from the area.
There are areas of sensitive soils which currently receive no special protections, and which, in some cases, are the habitat for the Las Vegas Bearpoppy, a species covered under the Clark County MSHCP, and designated by the State of Nevada as Critically Endangered. Desert dumping is another major concern in the Nellis Dunes.
If managed as a regional motorized recreation area by Clark County a variety of environmental protections could be implemented. OHV trails could be routed through non-sensitive soils to minimize dust and to provide protection to the Bearpoppy. Areas of heavy use could be treated to prevent the creation of dust. Dust control practices such as wetting the surfaces of motorized tracks could be implemented. Through management and restricted access, the problem of desert dumping would be minimized. (Page 2) On Page 3 it is pointed out that the area, although in the Nellis Air Force Base flight path, could be used for radio controlled aircraft and vehicles.

It must be pointed out that all of these plans were made without public comment by a few county employees and those who use the facility need to be satisfied that changes will be made to accommodate the wishes of those attending the hastily called public meetings.
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Old 02-01-2008, 11:32 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Exclamation Urgent - Nellis Dunes, Public Comments needed

If you are not a local but have or plan on visiting Las Vegas your vote counts.

We need to ask you to also send an email with your vote and comments to:


Please visit the Clark County site and vote.
Comprehensive Planning Web Site

Example:
I voted to "Do Not Support"

Reason:
I think in the best interest of saving the land for Open OHV use is to keep the land under the control of the BLM.
I Do Not support Clark County in taking the land from the BLM.

Please fill in the comments section with your own words!

Please send a copy to:

robert_wandel@nv.blm.gov

nellisdunes@jw.associates.org


This way all 3 agency's involved will have the same votes.

also...
Please use the print screen function on your computer before you submit the form

Saving your vote:
Open paint program on your computer select paste in the "Edit" area
then do a save as .jpg for your own voting record.


My concern is the county rep said he had about 1500 emails asking the county for support of this idea.
The meetings the rooms were full of people Against the idea.

so...................
Where are the "mystery emails" coming from for support?

Thanks!!

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Re: Urgent - Nellis Dunes, Las Vegas 29-31 Jan 2008

Here are some of my thoughts and concerns on this.

I do feel Mike Poop (Clark County) is a good guy & OHV friendly but it's not him that worries me.

1. If this gets approved it will now longer be in his department.

2. We don't know how the committee for a Clark County Nellis Dunes will be stacked - do know that It will have a rep from air quality & one from enviromental affairs on it.

3. The County Resolution, The Plan, plus letter from Rory Reid don't sound like the same OHV friendly project as Mike Poop pitched last night.

4. I trust the county less than the BLM & feel we have more options & tools to keep this area open under BLM management.

5. We need to get Nellis Dunes protected/deed restricted as a open OHV area.

6. There is no guarantee that the proposed legislation by the Nevada congressional delegation on behalf of Clark County will pass or emerge as presented.
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Re: Urgent - Nellis Dunes, Las Vegas 29-31 Jan 2008

Media coverage of Nellis Dunes

02/12/2008 - County looks to take dunes - VIEW NEWS: A Neighborhood Newspaper
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Re: Urgent - Nellis Dunes, Las Vegas 29-31 Jan 2008

What: Nellis Dunes: Clean Up

When: Saturday, March 22, 9:00 AM

Where:
Meet at I-15 and Apex Rd turnoff

Who should come: Anyone with a 4WD vehicle who wants to see Nellis remain open and free to all wheelers.

Why: If we want recreation areas to remain open for free use, we need to help support the BLM

Meeting Description:Vegas Valley and many other 4x4 and motorcycle and quad clubs are doing a clean-up of the Nellis dunes, this was a request of the BLM to help clean up the only free recreational area that we have.

The BLM called to day to remind us to show up...
they realize it is Easter Weekend and can`t change the day.

Please try and come out for a few hours and show your support!
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Re: Urgent - Nellis Dunes, Las Vegas 29-31 Jan 2008

ReviewJournal.com - News - BLM will manage off-road rec area
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