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Old 03-06-2008, 04:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Virtual rally for the Hammers.

Guys, please take a look at this and make your move. There's strength in numbers and with a number such big as this forum I think we can make a difference. Thanks.

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=664218
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Announcing the first ever, Pirate4x4.com: VIRTUAL RALLY FOR THE HAMMERS

Please read the following very carefully!

We need your help to pull this off and make it effective. Any and all input is greatly appreciated and will be carefully listened to.

First, let me be VERY clear. It does not look good for the Hammers.

John Stewart for Cal4Wheel is working extremely hard on this with several other people and organizations, but they cannot do it all alone. Like never before, the OHV community needs to develop a grass-roots effort to show that we have strength in numbers and that we care about our trails being taken away from us.

Here is the goal:

In a four hour time frame pack Pirate with so many people the server fries and Pirate crashes. (OK, just kidding…but that would sound awesome on a press release! LOL!)

All politicians care about is numbers. If you have ever taken a poly-sci class you may remember hearing that 1 letter from a person is seen as roughly equaling 300 votes. The greatest number of users ever logged into Pirate was 3,305 on 2/11/2008. The goal is to CRUSH that number and have all of those people post up in the Rally thread what the Hammers mean to them and to the OHV community.

When the rally is over, we will lock the thread and fab-up ANOTHER press release to the powers that be, showing how many people attended this virtual rally, how many posts there were, and invite them to read the thread and our concerns if they did not attend.

Here is the Plan:

1. We will issue a press release this Friday to politicians, media outlets, companies etc. announcing a virtual rally on Pirate4x4.com and invite them to come.


2. Lance will do a mass e-mail to ALL PBB members this Friday asking them to participate in the rally from 2-6 by posting their concerns in the thread.

3. We will come up with “sample” post to put in the thread to give people an idea of what we are looking for. (post them here please) Even people that have NEVER been to the Hammers need to post their concerns. This is all about showing how many of us there are and that we have a VOICE as a community.


4. The Rally will be on WEDNESDAY MARCH 12th from 2 to 6 pm Pacific Standard time.

5. Mustard Dog will start the “Rally” thread at 2pm that day. As of now, it will be in chit-chat, but we may be able to have it in all forums at once.

6. In the thread people will post their concerns about our trails being taken away, why the Hammers should remain open, pictures of them and their FAMILIES in the Hammers (appropriate ones!), etc. etc. People are encouraged to post multiple times.

ALL CHIT-CHAT BULL**** AND INAPPRIOPRATE POSTS WILL BE DELETED! We plan on having important people read this thread. If we are not on our best behavior, the OHV community will look bad.

7. As stated above, after the rally another press-release will be issued showing the number of people attending the rally, the number of posts, data on how fast the thread grew etc… We will also invite those in power that did not attend to read the thread.

What I am asking from all of you:

1. PLEASE: Get the word out! E-mail everyone you know, put something about it in your sig-line, go to other boards and sites and announce the rally, send out bulletins on Myspace etc. etc.

2. Write sample “posts” for people to see and post them here. Hopefully, they can type something up over the weekend and just cut and paste it on the day of the Rally.


Will this Rally save the Hammers? I do not know. But if it shows politicians and land-managers that we are a force to reckon with because of our numbers, it may make them think twice.

Why am I doing this if I have never been to the Hammers? During the ELDO fiasco last summer, I asked for help in chit-chat. People asked me, “Why should we help you guys? Where were YOU when OUR trails were being closed?” After I though about it, they were right. Where was I? It seems that we only fight for our own backyards. Not anymore. I promised the PBB in that thread I would fight route closures EVERYWHERE. So I am.

In a few, I will post up what I plan to post in the rally thread on the 12th.

A huge thanks to John Stewart, Del Albright, Randy Burelson, Cal4, BRC, and the other “Land-use” guys for their help, guidance and support. Many of them are working VERY hard behind the scenes on this issue.

I would also like to thank Lance and Camo for letting us do this on their site.

For all of those that e-mailed and PM’ed me on this: A huge thanks for your input and help. I am asking you to all step up in leadership roles in this.

I am sure there are people I forgot to thank. I am sorry….it’s been a long day already! LOL!!


It’s AWN like Donkey KONG!

GET IT!

Kurt Schneider

The Friends of Eldorado National Forest.
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Re: Virtual rally for the Hammers.

THANK YOU for posting this.

Please. everyone come togeather on this. If we can't unite... our sport will be gone before you know it.
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Please. everyone come togeather on this. If we can't unite... our sport will be gone before you know it.
No no, thank you for reminding me! Guys, this won't even cost you a gallon of gas. Whether you ever go out there, you do enjoy watching the videos and don't you feel better knowing that you can go out there if you want to? Let's flex some forum muscles for this. 15,000 strong right?
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Re: Virtual rally for the Hammers.

This should also be BOLDED or something on the home/front page of the forum.

Mods? Please? Thanks.
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No no, thank you for reminding me! Guys, this won't even cost you a gallon of gas. Whether you ever go out there, you do enjoy watching the videos and don't you feel better knowing that you can go out there if you want to? Let's flex some forum muscles for this. 15,000 strong right?
Imagine if 50% of the users from FJ Cruiser forums, 50% from TTORA, and 50% from Pirate4x4.com actually showes up. That's an amazing amount of people and voices. I Pray that is 100% attendance, but that's obviously unrealistic.

People need to write letters too! 1 letter -300 voters... we have a big impact!
If we got 15,000 people to write letters the politians can essentially see it as 4,500,000 votes. I'd think they would rethink the plan!
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Re: Virtual rally for the Hammers.

Thanks Tony!

I'll be there for sure.
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Re: Virtual rally for the Hammers.

Thanks Dominic. If you feel strongly about this and is willing to participate, please post in this thread so you can affirm your position and also bump the thread.
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Re: Virtual rally for the Hammers.

Just some quick numbers:

Pirate4x4. has 109,980 members... right now

TTORA has 22,761 members... right now

FJC Forums has ??? members?

Either way...

Look at the numbers with just two sites (this is now on many forums) there are 132,741 members of the OHV community. WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

Please, even with 500,000 members we need people to write letters, and be at the virtual rally. (March 12, 2-6PM PST) You can figure roughly 50% will do anything.
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Forum here currently has 18,000+
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