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Old 05-27-2007, 03:40 AM   #11
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Kind of a drastic change when yo show the pics like that.

Well done.

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Kind of a drastic change when yo show the pics like that.

Well done.

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After i get my light bar lights installed, my fog light mount reset, my forward roof rack piece with air dam, and my cb antennas installed, I'll take some true before and after shots with same angles, locations, etc. on the driveway.

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Old 05-27-2007, 11:43 AM   #13
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Looking forward to the pics.

I'll check back in a while.

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The first post in this thread has been updated to give a narrative flow to the modification process. I will add more details over time...
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Yeah mir good idea updating the first post.. it looks terrific. I really have to watch this and copy all your good ideas.
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I maxed out my number of photos in one post, so here are the...

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In my favourite canyon (Odessa)...




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Those are great photos, and show some great offroading.

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Very Impressive.... I like the wall or rock in the first photo.
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4. Skids and Sliders

- The Stock Skid (AKA "Bling") Tray and Stock Rock Rails
I bought the FJC with stock rock rails and skid tray. I was actually quite surprised at how well the truck handled with no extra skid trays on my initially forays to UT and various SoCal runs. The stock skid tray was fine, but it just buckled so bad after moderate impact with rocks that it became clear that I should swap it out. The stock rock rails handled much better. But I just decided I wanted some extra width (don't we all?) I still went with one of the least wide aftermarket rails, though.

IMAGE-> Front segment of the MAF/4+ skid trays. The apex of the "V" sits a little off from the cross member associated with the front axle, but touches the bottom of the front differential. The ridge line or apex of the "V" in the skid becomes the lowest point on the entire three segment skid setup. Probably good, since if you can't clear this, you'll be in deep trouble a few feet later...

- Man-A-Fre/4+ Skid Trays
I went with the MAF/4+ skid trays because they cover the entire length of the underside from nose to the back end of the tcase, and at 3/16" steel, they are as strong as you can get. The photos on MAF's webpage are of my truck, so you can see the before-and-after effects of wheeling. Whilst I have bounced the truck off very many big rocks, the worst I've managed to do while rock crawling is scratch the plates. Absolutely no tearing and no snagging on rocks. The only time I've damaged the plates is when I hit big "whoop-di-doos" at very high speed - no plate could survive that unbent. The front section has since been replaced and is now almost stock again. The exhaust cross over cover has taken by far the most damage while rock crawling - but just scratches and I have never got stopped on a rock by this (I think there's no physical way to do this since it's so small and you can just brute force the vehicle to slide over it - unless you've really badly high-centered it - in which case the trench is irrelevant and you have bigger problems). There are nice access holes and drainage holes in the plates, but small enough that they will not snag on stuff. The oil drainage hole did not line up properly on early versions, but I understand that this is now fixed. These skids cover all of the underside of the vehicle - the only skids with as good protection I have seen are the BudBuilt units, and I see the MAF/4+ and Bud's as equivalent, despite all the hype.

Recently, MAF introduced an extra skid piece that replaces the ARB apron at the bottom of the ARB front bumper. This essentially upgrades the thickness of this piece. Given that I've never so much as scratched that piece, it was of highly dubious necessity, but hey, now I'm full thickness steel from the top of the bumper all the way back to the gas can.

IMAGE-> Second and third segments of the MAF/4+ skid trays, including the extra cross member for the third panel mount.

IMAGE-> It turns out I quite like flat bottomed girls... This image also shows why the exhaust cross-over bulge isn't really an issue - if that snags, checkout what's next - d'oh, rear diff pumpkin, comin'in fast!

IMAGE-> This is the new full-thickness steel plate skirt / connecting plate (in black) that fits between the ARB bumper and the first regular MAF/4+ plate. The original ARB skirt was quite thin - but also nearly impossible to hit. Whether I really need it or not, I now have it!

- Making the MAF/4+ Plates work with the Inchworm Lefty+Crawler
When I had my transfer case changed out to the Inchworm dual tcase, my combined transmission / tcase became about 8 1/2" longer than stock. This pushed the tcase end aft of the MAF/4+ cross member (the part needed to mount the third part of the skid plate). We were concerned this would be a major issue, but it turned out that the cross member could be cut in a very limited number of places to allow it to pass in the original location, without fouling on the tcase. Thus, the skids have been reinstalled over my new tcase setup and work great.

IMAGE-> The MAF/4+ cross member was cut to accommodate my extended Inchworm tcase, but the skids required no modification.

IMAGE-> With the third plate off the truck, you can see what parts of the cross member needed cutting. Having dragged the plates over rocks, even cut like this, the cross member and plates are more than strong enough.

- Man-A-Fre/4+ Rock Rails (Sliders)
The change out to new rock rails was less pressing, but having used the rails as an essential part of getting over obstacles as I got to do more difficult trails, I felt I wanted the rocks kept further from the vehicle. I put the wide version of the MAF/4+ rails on the truck. These have worked out great. I have managed to deeply scratch the rails, and by dropping the whole weight of the truck (at some speed) on one side as I slid down a rock, I have even managed to very slightly bend one of them. Overall, these are awesome rails and will do the job vs. rocks. They're a little too narrow for steps, but I never bought them wanting steps. Plus, being pulled in, they'll take less torque on rock impact (torque = force of impact * radial distance to the mounting point).

IMAGE-> The MAF/4+ "wide" rock rails on the truck. These rails are still quite "tucked in" compared with the other aftermarket rails. Have worked great for me.

- Total Chaos Front Lower Control Arm Skids
The front suspension and steering components are vulnerable, and the lower front arm particularly so. These are the only parts I've ever out-and-out broken on the trail. Total Chaos have designed a bolt or weld-on skid plate for the lower arms. In the photos, I have them bolted on. Now they're partially welded (and painted black!) The plates originally interfered with the bolt on the base of my jounce receiver, but this was solved by recessing the bolt.

IMAGE-> The Total Chaos front lower control arm skids shown bolted to the arms. I now have them partially welded on and painted.

IMAGE-> I now have the lower arm skid plates partially welded on (outboard part, note unused bolt hole and weld) and painted.

- Total Chaos Spindle Gussets
I read this post on bent front spindles and also noted that Air2Air had beefed his spindles up and thought "do I drive like a crazy person off road? Might I also potentially damage my spindles?" In good conscience, I could only answer "yes" to both. In that case, I figured it was better to spend $40 on some gussets that potentially damage my spindles. It is important to note that these gussets eliminate the sway bar mount points. This isn't a problem for me as I haven't run with a front sway bar in a long time. The gussets also do not work with the stock UCA - again, not an issue for me as I have the Total Chaos UCA's.

The gussets can be bought from Total Chaos (they're the 5th item down from the top of the page). They weld to the spindles and reinforce them.

IMAGE-> Spindle gusset welded in place and painted.

- Rear Differential Cover / Skid (AllPro and AllPhase)
I had got my rear differential caught on a rock during a trip in December '06, and got worried about protection. At the time, all I could find for diff protection was the AllPro weld on rear diff plate, which provides great protection for the back of the diff, but not the bottom or front.

IMAGE-> The AllPro rear differentail guard is welded onto the "pumpkin" - also shown are the lower shock mount skids.

I ordered an AllPhase Offroad rear diff skid as part of a group buy that resulted in some badly sized plates. But my biggest problem was that it turned out that the skids wouldn't fit over my welded-on all pro plate. So the skid (after heft mofidying) found a home on another FJC:

IMAGE-> The AllPhase skid wouldn't fit on my rear diff because the allpro skid was already welded on. So it found a new home on a different FJC.

- TLC Trailing Arm / Rear Lower Control Arm Mount Skid
In the same article that talked about the bending of the rear lower control arms, I also read about how exposed the frame mount for these arms are. I had recently been at TLC and so decided to get a set of their skids for this mount (see bottom of this linked page at TLC). These are easy bolt on parts. The only issue is that I can imagine the fronts of these digging in and pulling off the frame. Welding the leading edges would probably help.

IMAGE-> The TLC lower control arm mount skid plate.

- All-Pro Rear Lower Suspension Mount Skid
More exposed even than the trailing arms are the mounts at the base of the rear struts. I this addedprotection to the bottom mounting points of the rear shocks with skids from AllPro (see near bottom of the linked AllPro page).

- Inchworm E-Locker Guard / Skid
I really don't want to lose my rear locker while crawling due to rock impact, so I picked up these Inchworm guards. The bolt and snap-on (one of the bolts cannot be put back in after installation - this is intended).

IMAGE-> The Inchworm e-locker guard is the blue piece near the rear differential on the rear axle.

- Manik TailLight Guard
I have one final piece of protection which maybe more bling than protection, but I like them. They're the Manik Tail Light Guards. They're a pain to install, involving removing panels in the back, and there was concern that they'd just get pulled off by a branch or rock. Indeed, for a long time I only had one of them on my truck because I thwacked my left side guard off on a rock when returning down one of my favourite trails. BUT - I insist that I would have broken my tail light instead of the guard if the guard had not been on! That's my story, and I'm sticking to it "Just tell you're self: they're not bling, they're not bling, ..."

IMAGE-> Oh, left side tail light guard, I feel like I never even got chance to know you! Gone young, but not forgotten...


5. Exhaust

- FlowMaster Offroad Muffler
After some amount of wheeling, I noticed that I'd beaten up my stock muffler pretty bad. I felt it was time to go shopping for something less prone to damage.

IMAGE-> Beaten up stock muffler.

It was thus that I became enamoured with the Flowmaster OffRoad Muffler. What a thing of diamond plate beauty! Anyway, it tucks-up much closer to the vehicle body and I don't think I've even touched it on a rock since I got it. So much for the need for diamond plate steel. The FJC sounded more "truck like" after getting this (and the custom exhaust) added - not sure if that's a great thing, but 1. this was a functional as opposed to aesthetic (acousto-aestheic?) mod, and 2. the later mods have also added noise, such that the FJC is no longer a quiet ride, regardless of the muffler.

IMAGE-> The Flowmaster OffRoad Muffler installed along with the custom exhaust backend.

- Custom High Clearance Exhaust
While having the muffler installed, my local muffler shop in Glendale (Muffler Town and Brakes, BTW) also came up with a way of re-ducting the exhaust to gain more clearance. The design for this turns out to be pretty obvious, since it's been independently come upon by several designers. Mine has just ordinary bent pipe (which puts little contraction points in the pipe where it bends), but AllPro has subsequently come out with a very similar design using really nice mandrel bent pipe. If I were to do it again, I'd just buy the AllPro stuff - not because my custom stuff is bad, just because the AllPro stuff is better...

IMAGE-> Custom offroad exhaust rearward of the rear axle showing the high clearance, especially where the pipe exits under the rear bumper.


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6. Roof Rack

- Gobi Ladder
I think the very first mod I ever made to the truck was to get the Gobi rear door ladder. I may have said earlier that it was the front bumper that came first, but that isn't true. I got the ladder somewhat as bling, cause I thought it looked cool. As it turns out, even though the rungs are very narrow, I use the ladder every time I put stuff up on the roof or take it off. It turned out to be very useful, thereby de-blinging itself. This comes under "roof rack" as I only use it to access my roof rack .

IMAGE-> Labeled picture of the rear of the roof rack with various parts and mounts.

- Demello HiLift Jack Clamps
I looked at many threads on many forums when trying to figure out how to mount the various large tools I wanted to bring on trips. Very early on, I read about the Demello HiLift Jack Clamps, and bought a set. These end up being really nice clamps (they come in two pieces that mount around the roof rack bar and that you bolt together with allen bolts) - I have them mounted on the lower, rear part of the roof rack. Since the HiLift is so heavy, I have it most easily accessible. The clamps use nice, large winged nuts to hold the Lift on the bolts. Despite vigorous shaking, I've never managed to even slightly loosen the wing nuts while wheeling, and the nightmare fear of dropping the jack off the back of the truck on the freeway is receding... The clamps are biased to the left driver side of the vehicle, since I chose to put the heaviest part of the jack nearest the ladder (the weight of the jack base means that the centre of mass is way over to the baseside of the jack - rather than being at the half way point along the jack length).

IMAGE-> Close up of the shovel, axe, HiLift, and jerry can mounting rings.

- FourTreks Shovel and Axe Mounts
For the shovel and axe, I ended up going with the FourTreks dual tool mount. These have nice Quick Fist rubber clamps located on rings that allen-bolt around the roof rack bar. It's really easy to lock and unlock the tools into these rubber clamp mounts. I have this tool on the upper bar, and the axe and shovel get locked in after the HiLift has been locked on.

IMAGE-> The HiLift and tools on the stock roof rack.

- Jerry Cans and Roof Mounting
I also ended up using FourTreks rings to mount my Blitz jerry can carriers to the roof rack. I had read about the dangers of horizontal fuel can storage, but after experimenting with Scepter NATO plastic fuel cans, I've become somewhat more comfortable with it. We'll see if at some point I don't leak petrol all over my roof. Not so much as a drop so far. I have two jerry can carriers, which I sometimes use for two fuel cans, and sometimes for one fuel and one water can. The water can does leak, but who cares? It's water.

IMAGE-> More of the tool storage.

When all the tools are loaded, and the shovel head rotated properly, this setup keeps the tools from rubbing on each other and vibrating. It's very quiet. The only problem is that unloaded, the fuel can bases stick up from the roof like two huge air brakes. Probably really hurts fuel efficiency. This leads to the need for an air dam.

IMAGE-> Top view down onto loaded roof rack.

- What Would I Do Differently if I Were Starting From Scratch?
Having started down the path of adding mounts, etc. to the stock roof rack, I decided that I didn't want to give up and replace it completely with an aftermarket solution like e.g. a Gobi. If I were to start again from scratch, I might not have bought the stock roof rack with the truck - but I barely knew what I was doing when I bought it (would also likely not have bought the stock skid plate).

- Garvin Basket for Roof Rack
There are aspects of the stock roof rack that I like, but the front half seems nearly useless in stock form for actually storing stuff on the roof. In order to make more useable space up front, I decided to add a Garvin "Adventure Rack". This has the advantage of coming with a pseudo-airdam on the front, plus this dam sits far enough back that I can fit it behind my light bar and lights. The Garvin hangs on brackets that grip the stock roof rack rails.

IMAGE-> The pseudo-airdam on the Garvin sits nicely behind the old Manik light bar (just as well behind my new Cowboy4x4 bar).

IMAGE-> Lots of room for stuff on the roof - and nice match to Cowboy4x4 light bar.


7. Lights

- Bumper-Mounted Driving and Fog Lights
Having been stranded a couple of times out on trails too late, I decided to get some more lights. The first part of this came with the ARB front bumper. I had fog lights installed in the bumper, and two Hella driving lights added in the center, flanking the winch control box.

IMAGE-> Front of FJC with the fog lights inset in bumper, and two Hella driving lights in center.

The driving and fog lights are controlled by factory fog light switches on the left side (top and bottom) of the center console switch panel (see photo, below).

IMAGE-> Center console, gear sticks, and switch panel. Bumper fog and driving lights are controlled by two factory fog light switches on left of switch panel.

- (old) Manik Front Roof Light Bar with Hella Driving Lights
Up top, I used to have have a Manik Light Bar attached to the front of the roof rack. Four additional Hella driving lights sit up on there.

IMAGE-> Hella driving lights mounted on a Manik light bar. Three of four lights sport the white Hella light covers in this shot.

- Cowboy4x4 Roof Light Bar with Hella Driving Lights

The same lights are now housed in a custom Cowboy4x4 lightbar (Thomas, "cowboy4x4", is a forum member, search for him and PM him if you're interested in a lightbar). The reason for the switch is that the Manik gave no protection to the lights and I was bashing them on tree branches, etc. Now the lights are nicely caged.

IMAGE-> Hella driving lights mounted on a Manik light bar. Three of four lights sport the white Hella light covers in this shot.


The four upper driving light are paired up, with the center pair on one switch and the outer pair on a second. Since I am now out of room on my main switch panel, switches for these lights were added to the access door below the steering column on the left. The two right hand switches are awaiting my roof rack mounted side and reverse lights.

IMAGE-> Switches for the front lights (left two switches).

- Daytime Running Headlights Switch
For times when you want the truck running, but without the lights (say while camping for the heater, or for any other reason), I added a daytime running headlights switch. For this mod I followed SwissArmySUV's post.

8. On Board Air

- Compressor or CO2? Why not both?
I went backwards and forwards on whether to go the compressor or CO2 route for onboard air. In the end, I went both - kind of a belts and braces (or suspenders) thing. The way I now have things, my CO2 is the first option for tires and the compressor is the first option for the air lockers. The compressor serves as the backup to the CO2 for tires.

IMAGE-> Airing down the AT's.

- QuickAir 3 Compressor - For Tires and Front Diff Locker
Until very recently, I had only the compressor. I went with a QuickAir 3 compressor due to the relatively high flow - rated 3.65 cfm at 40 psi. I mounted the compressor in the engine bay, on the vacant driver side wheel well. Recently, the compressor has been re-plumbed with a 100 psi pressure switch and hooked up with a switch on the dash to drive an ARB front locker.

IMAGE-> QuickAir3 in the engine compartment.

- Heat problems with under-the-hood compressors
The only major problem with having the compressor under in the engine compartment is heat. It has no problems on cool days for the very short periods needed to get the front differential locked, even when I'm turning it on and off every few minutes. The problem comes when after a long drive, you need to air four tires up from 15 to 45 psi. On one of my first test runs, the compressor did three and then stopped. I had to find a gas station to fill up the fourth. After that, I was without front air locker for the rest of the day. The compressor thermal shutoff only got released after a couple of hours of post-sunset cool down on my driveway back home. I think mounting the compressor elsewhere would be better for cooling and reliability. As it is, I figured I'd just be better off having the compressor assigned to one job, and get a dedicated system for tires.

On a more recent run in the southern California summer, the compressor would not work simply due to the combination of ambient and engine heat --- clearly the current location of the compressor is far from ideal as it's getting baked. What we ultimately decided to do was to get some air vents placed in the hood to get the engine bay temperatures down. Most people are interested in this for purported performance improvements. I'm not sure about this, but I figured since most people would be interested in hood vents for this purpose, I've included my mods in the "Engine" section.

IMAGE-> Closeup of the compressor with the air locker plumbing.

- The CO2 Ultimate Air 15 Lb "Multiforce" System
For the CO2 system, I decided to go with the Ultimate Air 15 lb CO2 "multiforce" system. This has a nice volume and good flow rates. I had difficulty getting this tank refilled at paintball shops - but a welding supply store proved much more useful. The can is accommodated in the rear drivers' side of the back cargo area, standing upwards, with the stand housing bolted to the floor. The reach of the hose from the tank (via appropriate door) seems to be sufficient to get the tires. The tank is mounted in a cradle when driving, so as to stop it sliding around. The cradle is itself bolted to the floor of the rear of the truck (see next photo). We had looked at trying to mount the cradle horizontally above the rear left wheel well (i.e. on the "sill" below the rear, left window), but it was simply too big and heavy.

IMAGE-> The mounting stand for the CO2 tank. We had looked at mounting on the rear window sill, but it's too big and heavy.

The system has a main "open / closed" valve on top, which takes the flow into a regulator (when "open"). The regulator has two gauges: one provides a measure of the mount of CO2 in the tank, the other a measure of the pressure at the outlet nozzle. The latter can be controlled with a valve on the regulator. This valve can be thought of a a rate-of-flow control or a final-pressure control. I use it more for the former and use a separate tire gauge to periodically check pressure while filling. The only operational problems I've had with the tank has been some "sticking" of the flow, which seems to be when ice forms in the line and/or regulator. In that case, I simply stop and then restart the flow. It is impressive how cold the regulator gets, forming a nice water ice frost on the outside (boy, I guess adiabatic expansion really does cool, who knew? ).

IMAGE-> The Utlimate Air 15lbs tank.

IMAGE-> The tank regulator (annotated). The main valve opens the tank to the regulator system. The main tank pressure gauge then provides info on how full the tank is. CO2 flows when the "flow rate valve" is opened. This valve controls the delivery pressure in the output valve. This pressure is indicated on the second pressure gauge.

- Where do You Fill CO2 Tanks?
I had always heard that paintball shops would fill CO2 tanks, but on my first forays, I uniformly found that they would claim the tank was too large and refused. I eventually found that a welding supply place would do it (for those in SoCal, it's Gordon Woods Industrial on Coldwater Canyon in North Hollywood.) Others have had luck with exinguisher places, etc.


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