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Old 12-20-2007, 07:05 PM   #501 (permalink)
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Personally the IV kits can be a bit of a problem for most persons. It could be added yet that is why I added the oral rehydration salts. Regular saline would be good hextend would be better yet we run into alot of problem running a blood volumizer. I think that for the amount of blood loss you would normally see along with heat injuries the fluid side can be covered with water and the salts.

Personally I do carry Saline and Ringers Lactate yet that is another story.
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Old 12-20-2007, 08:58 PM   #502 (permalink)
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I appreciate the suggestions and will print them and add those items to my list of things to pick up. In addition to the steri strips, I need to pack a tube of super glue. Once the wound is closed with the strips the super glue helps keep the skin together. This presumes that it's not a jagged tearing laceration where we're back to trimming the skin and the traditional sutcher. I know that the surgical sealant market is a lot more advanced than that, but we're talking short term solutions to trauma.

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I would also add a CAT Tourniquet never know what could happen miles away from nowhere and could definitely save someone's life.
I have one in the kit, but it's not on the list.

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Rehydration salts
I have traditional salt tablets to maintain electrolite levels but it wouldn't hurt to revisit that. It's especially important if you have a patient that has dysentery or similar. I also carry Flagil in the kit. I don't think that's on the list above either. One would hope that nobody would be drinking contaminated water, but just in case, they can be hard to kill without it.

PM me I would be happy to send you a few of these items.[/quote]

Will do! (thanks!!)

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might as well throw in some IV kits too
It can be challenging to insert a catheter into somebody that's in shock if you don't practice. I know from the giving and receiving end. But maybe it wouldn't hurt to have a couple bags along.

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Personally the IV kits can be a bit of a problem for most persons. It could be added yet that is why I added the oral rehydration salts. Regular saline would be good hextend would be better yet we run into alot of problem running a blood volumizer. I think that for the amount of blood loss you would normally see along with heat injuries the fluid side can be covered with water and the salts.

Personally I do carry Saline and Ringers Lactate yet that is another story.
I think that the salts are enough unless we're talking quite serious trauma or dysentery (or radiation sickness) where normal oral hydration doesn't work. It would be more important for an expedition of a longer duration than for a situation where you're within an hour of a hospital in North America.
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This was a thread (on the current subject) which I found very interesting when I first joined the forum. If memory serves, BellyDoc gave a wealth of info, as always.

What's in your first aid kit?
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Thanks VOODOOBREW - I revisited BELLYDOC's list and his comments (on point as usual).
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A few more Martinez Canyon (AZ) pictures

I posted this first bit on the 2 Buggies and an FJ thread and it's re-posted here:

Putting it all into perspective.

I received a disk of photos from SEANK that his buddy Brian took. (thanks Brian and Sean)

This is a great photo of me STARTING down through the luge.



Yes, it was a very close thing. It did shave metal from my left rear tail light guard but the rig survived - Thanks to Sean and Larry (once again, they saved that whole left side of the rig through world class spotting).

You can't see it because of the angle of the shot, but the pipe is about 30 meters long and it's that tight ALL THE WAY DOWN. And I don't care how cool or uncool your FJ is, there is a substantial chance of damage. You can see SEANK straining to keep me out of the wall.


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I'm posting this here just because. I'm interested in making a Death Valley Run. Actually Poker Dawg came up with the idea. Weather permitting, this might be a great weekend to run the Death Valley - 2 nights out under the stars. Exploring Death Valley and maybe run up into some of the Nevada Mining country. If you read this and you're interested, let me know. I might even be persuaded to order stickers... let me know.

There are no conflicting events posted on the SoCal calendar.
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The new pictures are killer. The area looks amazing and has some crazy wheeling to go with it.



Death Valley is right before my birthday so I might have to make it a birthday expedition.
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I'm posting this here just because. I'm interested in making a Death Valley Run. Actually Poker Dawg came up with the idea. Weather permitting, this might be a great weekend to run the Death Valley - 2 nights out under the stars. Exploring Death Valley and maybe run up into some of the Nevada Mining country. If you read this and you're interested, let me know. I might even be persuaded to order stickers... let me know.

There are no conflicting events posted on the SoCal calendar.
Sounds like fun. Mark me as interested
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A few more Martinez Canyon (AZ) pictures

I posted this first bit on the 2 Buggies and an FJ thread and it's re-posted here:

Putting it all into perspective.

I received a disk of photos from SEANK that his buddy Brian took. (thanks Brian and Sean)

This is a great photo of me STARTING down through the luge.



Yes, it was a very close thing. It did shave metal from my left rear tail light guard but the rig survived - Thanks to Sean and Larry (once again, they saved that whole left side of the rig through world class spotting).

You can't see it because of the angle of the shot, but the pipe is about 30 meters long and it's that tight ALL THE WAY DOWN. And I don't care how cool or uncool your FJ is, there is a substantial chance of damage. You can see SEANK straining to keep me out of the wall.
OK, now that is a pucker factor force 10
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