Whats the deal with the long travel rear Suspension?

[duratrac]

Best rear end suspension out there by FAR ,, MT ROCKS

[The Landshark]

For you "average Joe's" out there wondering about loss of up travel. Look at baja trophy trucks and the short track race trucks for the CORR series and think about how high they sit when stationary or when going over smooth terrain, they appear very low almost stock looking but when they hit a jump the wheels are able to drop and absorb the landing like a giant pillow. My old Mercedes made me laugh when I started to jack it up to get it on jack stands and rebuild the front suspension, I was pumping and pumping the jack for quite some time before the wheel came off of the ground. That thing sits way low in it's travel so that the wheels are able to track the undulations of the terrain they are driving over giving it that butter cream smooth ride. You want to have some up travel but it's the ability of the other wheel(s) to droop through all of that down travel they have to maintain contact with the ground when off road and doing some crazy articulating.

Setting up a full suspension mountain bike is sorta the same thing, when you are sitting on the bike the suspension should settle anywhere between 15-30% of the available travel, that figure is different among all of the different frame makers but is there for the same effect. You can set it for a little less sag and the bike will ride a bit firmer or if set to the deeper side of the sag the bike will feel way more plush even though you have settled farther into the travel and reduced the amount of up travel the wheel has. I like to set my MTB's up on the plush side and let it eat up the trails the way my Merc eats up crap roads.

Sag is your friend. The next part of the story is setting the low speed and high speed compression damping so you don't blow right through what up travel you do have and start bottoming out all hard and doing damage.

[tsy87]

this may be a dumb question... but would it make a difference if I install this setup on the rear and keep my ome heavies up front?

I'd like to eventually get some icon ext coil overs up front as well but the brain thinks ahead of the wallet.

Currently im running OME heavies back and front with light racing UCA's.

Thanks!

[Zeus]

Question is do you need the heavies rear for weight? Reason I ask is I run the Superflex rear springs he suggests here but with Firestone airbags (with OME heavies/shocks front). When I'm running more weight in the back I just add a couple pounds of air to the bags as needed. Works well for my purposes, but of course I'd like a better coilover up front someday.

[tsy87]

^^ thanks,

Currently, I have a metal tech tube bumper and a 305/70/16 tire hanging off the back so there is additional weight over stock... however I don't carry a ton of stuff inside usually.

[LT.]

tsy87 previously said:

^^ thanks,

Currently, I have a metal tech tube bumper and a 305/70/16 tire hanging off the back so there is additional weight over stock... however I don't carry a ton of stuff inside usually.

That's basically the same set up as us, we have our tube bumper with a 35" spare tire and the springs handle the weight just fine. The lower portion is rated at 250lbs of spring rate which is 10lbs shy of the OME medium spring which is rated at 260lbs.

[tsy87]

LT. previously said:

That's basically the same set up as us, we have our tube bumper with a 35" spare tire and the springs handle the weight just fine. The lower portion is rated at 250lbs of spring rate which is 10lbs shy of the OME medium spring which is rated at 260lbs.

Thanks! so.... would it be foolish to run the EXT travel rear kit without an ext travel front setup as well?

Another dumb question, Id imagine the ext travel rear also will provide a similar lift as my OMEs currently?

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tsy87 previously said:

Thanks! so.... would it be foolish to run the EXT travel rear kit without an ext travel front setup as well?

Not necessarily.

The articulation gains capable in the rear far exceed what's capable in the front, considering an OE width configuration.

I found that the rear is more compliant and can push the front, if it can maintain weight on the downward rear wheel, which more droop will allow for.






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[LT.]

tsy87 previously said:

Thanks! so.... would it be foolish to run the EXT travel rear kit without an ext travel front setup as well?

Another dumb question, Id imagine the ext travel rear also will provide a similar lift as my OMEs currently?

Nope not at all! That's probably 98% of the set ups out there running our long travel rear system. Extended coilovers up front and long travel rear.

The rear suspension will provide the same lift as your OME medium springs

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Didn't realize a vendors thread.


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