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Some play in front axle normal or not?

I need to change my CV boots/rings....and before started I noticed that the axle has play on both ends...the diff and the wheel.

Is some play normal or not?

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Re: Some play in front axle normal or not?

Had this same sort of question yesterday! Well I guess it depends on where exactly the play is but for me when I asked a tech about having some in-and-out play with the part of the CV axle that goes into the front differential he said that is normal.

If you had a video you could post up somehow that would help diagnosis. Or a picture with arrows showing where the play is and how much

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Re: Some play in front axle normal or not?

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Had this same sort of question yesterday! Well I guess it depends on where exactly the play is but for me when I asked a tech about having some in-and-out play with the part of the CV axle that goes into the front differential he said that is normal.

If you had a video you could post up somehow that would help diagnosis. Or a picture with arrows showing where the play is and how much
Good suggestion. I'll post a quick vid to show what I mean.

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Had this same sort of question yesterday! Well I guess it depends on where exactly the play is but for me when I asked a tech about having some in-and-out play with the part of the CV axle that goes into the front differential he said that is normal.

If you had a video you could post up somehow that would help diagnosis. Or a picture with arrows showing where the play is and how much
Here is a couple quick vids of the play in the front driver side...too much?
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Re: Some play in front axle normal or not?

Links to vids...Thanks!

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Some play in front axle normal or not?

There are no bearing on the driver side CV that would support the CV axle. The driver side is free floating. The movement that you see is the spider gear that is moving up and down since it has a lot of play into it and it is connected to the driver side CV, unfortunately there is no fix to it, unless you go with an ARB Locker which has a bearing to support the driver side CV. Here is a video I shot for another member from the front carrier in 2016 after I changed to an ARB Locker. https://youtu.be/9KOrWzBBQo4
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There are no bearing on the driver side CV that would support the CV axle. The driver side is free floating. The movement that you see is the spider gear that is moving up and down since it has a lot of play into it and it is connected to the driver side CV, unfortunately there is no fix to it, unless you go with an ARB Locker which has a bearing to support the driver side CV. Here is a video I shot for another member from the front carrier in 2016 after I changed to an ARB Locker. https://youtu.be/9KOrWzBBQo4
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Thank you. I appreciate the insight. Clearly the same thing.
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Re: Some play in front axle normal or not?

There is a needle bearing on the driver's side of the diff that supports the cv for the Automatic Trans diff (I don't think manual trans diffs have it). It's not uncommon for it to wear out producing the play you have. ARB lockers have a PTFE bushing that replaces the needle bearing and lasts longer.

East coast gear supply has made there own PTFE bushing for those without an ARB. See link

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Re: Some play in front axle normal or not?

I did the ECGS PTFE sintered bushing replacing the flimsy Toyota needle bearing (auto trans). It took much of the play out, but was a b¡tch to install. Don't think I would do it again unless the needle bearing was destroyed.

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