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Regretting my purchase

I recently paid 20k for a 2008 FJ 2wd Base (towing package, RR diff lock, convenience package with parking sensors). I'm a little embarrassed to say that when I put the initial deposit down, I thought it was 4wd (I wasn't even aware that FJs came in 2wd until after I paid a non-refundable $500). My wife insisted we keep it since it had low mileage and was in great shape. And for the most part, I'm really liking the FJ. But in the back of my mind, I sometimes feel like I made a mistake by overpaying for this vehicle and getting a 2wd (again, completely my fault).

The good thing is I have 3 days to return the vehicle and get a full refund (minus the $500 deposit). I'm debating whether or not I should take advantage of this. Overall, I'm pretty happy with the FJ, and tbh, I probably wouldn't be using 4wd on a regular basis (I do go camping and fishing, but I can't recall ever needing 4wd at my usual spots). I live in GA so we do get snow maybe once or twice a year, and it would be nice having 4wd for that, but I'm debating whether or not using it once a year justifies the extra cost. The other main thing I'm worried about is resale. Again, not sure if that justifies the cost of 4wd and the hassle of sending this vehicle back (I bought it out of state).

Anyways, I was hoping to get some advice about whether or not I should keep this vehicle (I love it, other than overpaying for it and not getting exactly what I initially intended). My wife wants to keep it, and I'm on the fence. It's actually really hard to find FJs in my budget around where I live (they literally sell before I can even test drive), and the 4wd vehicles in my budget tend to have really high mileage. Sorry for the brain dump, just hoping someone smarter than me can provide some new perspective on this situation.

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A 2WD FJ is still way more capable of a whole range of off road things than a lot of other 4WD vehicles are.

Note that an automatic transmission FJ, when shifted into H4 (4WD) shuts off vehicle skid control (VSC), so it is a fact that there are some conditions (like light snow) where staying in 2WD may be a safer driving option than 4WD because of that.

VSC uses yaw sensors to detect the conditions which could lead to a spin, and then cuts throttle, or applies partial braking to various individual wheels, to counter and prevent it. Much more sophisticated than what a human is usually capable of doing. It is shut off when in 4WD because the locked center diff prevents VSC from being able to do its job. As a result, 4WD in an AT FJ is really meant for off road when traction is too low to get through using RWD and a locked rear diff.

If your 2WD FJ can do all of the things you like to do, then you can also enjoy better mileage (though, honestly, none of us bought ours "for the great mpg", it is still worth something!).


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I recently paid 20k for a 2008 FJ 2wd Base (towing package, RR diff lock, convenience package with parking sensors). I'm a little embarrassed to say that when I put the initial deposit down, I thought it was 4wd (I wasn't even aware that FJs came in 2wd until after I paid a non-refundable $500). My wife insisted we keep it since it had low mileage and was in great shape. And for the most part, I'm really liking the FJ. But in the back of my mind, I sometimes feel like I made a mistake by overpaying for this vehicle and getting a 2wd (again, completely my fault).

The good thing is I have 3 days to return the vehicle and get a full refund (minus the $500 deposit). I'm debating whether or not I should take advantage of this. Overall, I'm pretty happy with the FJ, and tbh, I probably wouldn't be using 4wd on a regular basis (I do go camping and fishing, but I can't recall ever needing 4wd at my usual spots). I live in GA so we do get snow maybe once or twice a year, and it would be nice having 4wd for that, but I'm debating whether or not using it once a year justifies the extra cost. The other main thing I'm worried about is resale. Again, not sure if that justifies the cost of 4wd and the hassle of sending this vehicle back (I bought it out of state).

Anyways, I was hoping to get some advice about whether or not I should keep this vehicle (I love it, other than overpaying for it and not getting exactly what I initially intended). My wife wants to keep it, and I'm on the fence. It's actually really hard to find FJs in my budget around where I live (they literally sell before I can even test drive), and the 4wd vehicles in my budget tend to have really high mileage. Sorry for the brain dump, just hoping someone smarter than me can provide some new perspective on this situation.

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Don't rush it, this statement >> "not getting exactly what I initially intended" < a vehicle is too much money spent on a depreciating item to deal with that. You should let your wife know that in the long run, that 4WD will be more valuable than the $500 lost. Wait and find what you want. Don't settle, buying a car is too emotional, you get caught up and MAY regret it deeply later.


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I would return it...life is too short to mess with things that disappoint you.

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If ya want 4WD then get a 4WD. We've all done worse things before believe me Bro...I know I'd regret it down the road. (No Pun Intended) 500 bucks ain't nothing!! Get a 4WD and you'll be much happier in a year from now than if ya don't. In this case ignore your well meaning wife and go with your GUT. Let us know what ya do. Good Luck.
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Re: Regretting my purchase

What others have said.. The $500 loss in the long run pales in comparison to what you actually want and resale value.. however on the flipside be prepared to either spend a little more (guessing $5k) for the same miles with a 4WD or buy one with more miles however at the same price point as the 2WD. Good luck

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Since you fish, if you'll want 4WD at the boat ramp

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If you're feeling regret now do you think that regret will fade in the future or will it be in the back of your mind nipping at you every time you drive the FJ? Or how will it resurface when you do get stuck, and you will. Now if you lived out west I would say build a desert bomber Baja style and rock it but that's not the case.

Bottom line is your gut feeling is spot on and you're here for some backup, in your shoes I would detest taking that $500 loss but as said above you'll lose more in depreciation on the 2wd and at the same time have a less capable FJ.

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I concur with many others here, a vehicle is way too much of an investment to settle. Nothing wrong with a 2wd FJ, but in my honest opinion, FJ's were designed to power all four wheels, so I think of the 2wd models as hamstrung. A $500 loss hurts, but that will fade, and you will be happy you switched.
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A 2WD FJ is still way more capable of a whole range of off road things than a lot of other 4WD vehicles are.

Note that an automatic transmission FJ, when shifted into H4 (4WD) shuts off vehicle skid control (VSC), so it is a fact that there are some conditions (like light snow) where staying in 2WD may be a safer driving option than 4WD because of that.

VSC uses yaw sensors to detect the conditions which could lead to a spin, and then cuts throttle, or applies partial braking to various individual wheels, to counter and prevent it. Much more sophisticated than what a human is usually capable of doing. It is shut off when in 4WD because the locked center diff prevents VSC from being able to do its job. As a result, 4WD in an AT FJ is really meant for off road when traction is too low to get through using RWD and a locked rear diff.

If your 2WD FJ can do all of the things you like to do, then you can also enjoy better mileage (though, honestly, none of us bought ours "for the great mpg", it is still worth something!).

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"A 2WD FJ is still way more capable of a whole range of off road things than a lot of other 4WD vehicles are."

Maybe a typo, did you intend to say "...than a lot of other 2WD vehicles"? I can think of very few off-road situations where a 2WD FJ would be any better than any true 4WD vehicle with similar weight and wheelbase.

VHS = Vehicle Stability Control in Toyota-speak, not Vehicle Skid Control

Auto-transmission FJs do not have a center differential.
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