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Old 07-09-2007, 03:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Scary reading...

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We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context
> his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an
> immigration overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to
> capacity by many of America's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant
> college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his
> latest book, "Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and
> illegal was destroying the entire state of California. He said it
> would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The
> American Dream.
>
> Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and
> gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat
> spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the
> United States. He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too
> self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that
> hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time.
> Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and
> that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit
> suicide.'"
>
> "Here is how they do it," Lamm said: "First, to destroy America, turn
> America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country."
> History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and
> antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a
> blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for
> a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset,
> put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies
> that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and
> tragedy." Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of
> national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not
> independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an
> ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and
> Corsicans.".
>
> Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism'
> and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an
> article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no
> cultural differences.
>
> Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates
> are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every
> other explanation is out of bounds.
>
> Third, "We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without
> much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As
> Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: "The apparent
> success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have
> been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance
> that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an
> American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us
> together."
>
> Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own
> language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with
> the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have
> various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their
> differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."
>
> "Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least
> educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated,
> undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this
> second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."
>
> "My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations
> and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in
> ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I
> would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the
> fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all
> minority failure on the majority population."
>
> "My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship ,
> and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over
> unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse
> people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is,
> when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable
> society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the
> unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks.
> The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they
> possessed a common Language and literature; and they worshipped the
> same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common
> enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not
> strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and
> geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece
> fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" --From many, one. In that historical
> reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the
> 'Unum,' we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."
>
> "Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to
> talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a
> word similar to 'heretic' in the 16 th century - that stopped
> discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe'
> halt discussion and debate.
>
> Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established
> multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of
> 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our
> immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration
> has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every
> individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of
> millions of them."
>
> In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow.
> Profound silence followed. Finally he said,. "Lastly, I would censor
> Victor Hanson Davis's book "Mexifornia." His book is dangerous. It
> exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America. deserves
> to be destroyed, don't read that book."
>
> There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous
> cloud above every attendee at the conference . Every American in that
> room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically,
> quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today.
> Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the
> foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even
> barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing
> as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the
> Third World as corporations create a Third World in America - take
> note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal
> aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book
> "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of
> Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery," and "Ignorance
> is strength."
>
> Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the
> conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is
> deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this
> immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a
> California wildfire and destroy everything in its path especially The
> American Dream.
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Old 07-09-2007, 04:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Scary reading...

If I see one personal attack either way in this thread it is getting deleted. Open debate welcome, but I have a bad feeling about this one.
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very interesting read. and as dragon said, lets please all play nice......
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Re: Scary reading...

To say "I'm not touching that with a ten foot pole" would be cowardly.

So I'll just say, "I don't know how to top that."

Please, please, please. Those that disagree with the Governors statements, try not to read into it the way many pro-immigration loyalists would have you... with fear and loathing and hate. I don't believe his words are those of a racist or a natzi, but rather those of a realist and a student of history. Did he overcompensate? Maybe. I don't believe in the tactic because it tends to use fear as a motivator and that can be dangerous. Read between the lines and rediscover lessons history has taught us.

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Awesome. The only thing that could have made that statement better was that if you would have posted it in Spanish.

Thanks for pre-emptively heading off any flaming.
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Well put!! Spoken just like.....well.....Dragon!!!
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Some-how im sure Bob Dole is behind all this.

"Hello everybody i'm Bob Dole, if u elect Bob Dole, Bob Dole will make sure that Bob Dole will do everything in Bob Doles power to make Bob Dole more like Bob Dole. Bob Dole, Bob Dole."

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I would say there is some truth to that. I just won't say which parts.
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