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Old 07-17-2007, 07:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Michael Vick...what a POS..

I don't normally post in this forum but man does this piss me off. Read the details on the witness accounts as to what he does to the dog that 'loses'. Some were even his. I normally don't wish death for anyone but I'll make an exception for this worthless low-life POS m****rf****r. Other accounts had him 'slamming' the losing dogs on pavement until death.


Taken from another board. A lawyer with 30 years of experience gives his .02 on what this means for Vick:

I wholeheartedly agree that an indictment is no evidence of guilt, and that Vick is, in the eyes of the criminal justice system, innocent until proven guilty. With that obvious disclaimer, however, I will share with you my experience with federal prosecutors.

In state court, a defendant generally resigns himself to an indictment because the prosecutor has wide latitude to indict and much of the investigation is done post-indictment. Therefore, a defense lawyer doesn't really get to work defending the case and trying to get it disposed of until after the indictment goes down. Federal prosecutors are very different. The United States Attorney does not indict unless he (1) has already done 99% of his investigation and obtained 99% of the evidence he will use at trial, and (2) is convinced that the evidence he has obtained against the defendant will result in a conviction. As a result, in the federal system, the defense lawyer's efforts are largely geared towards preventing an indictment, since once an indictment is obtained the die is cast and your guy is going to federal-pound-you-in-the-***-prison.

And this indictment (which I pulled down from the Court's website) shows that to be the case here. The indictment identifies four "Cooperating Witness[es]." The first Cooperating Witness (referred to as CW#1 in the indictment) was the guy from whom Vick purchased four pit bulls in early 2002. (Indict at Para. 9.) In February 2002, Vick "rolled" or "tested" some of his pit bulls agaisnt other dogs owned by CW#1 to determine how well the dog fought. It is implied that CW#1 would be able to testify as to the disposal of underperforming dogs.

The second Cooperating Witness ("CW#2") observed Vick at two separate dog fights in June 2002. (Indict. at Para. 47.) At that fight, CW#2 agreed to a fight between his dogs and "Bad Newz Kennels'" (i.e., the outfit co-owned by Vick) dogs. Vick was present at the March 2003 fight between his dog and CW#2's. Vick's dog lost, and after consultation with Vick, Vick's coconspirator "executed the losing dog by wetting the dog down with water and electrocuting the animal." (Indict. at Para. 53.)

The third Cooperating Witness ("CW#3"), had a dog fight against Vick's in Fall 2003. (Indict. at Para. 67.) "During the fight, CW#3 was criticized by a person unknown to the Grand Jury from "Bad Newz Kennels" for CW#3's having yelled out VICK's name in front of the crowd during the dog fight." (Indict. at Para. 68.)

This brings us to Cooperating Witness #4 ("CW#4"), who owned a female pit bull named Trouble against one of Vick's dogs. Vick's dog lost, and Vick personally paid CW#4 the purse money of approximately $7,000. (Indict. at Para. 76.)

That's four witnesses--all of whom can put Vick at the scene of the dog fights and all of whom can testify to his active participation in said fights. And that's only the ones that the US Attorney feels confident enough to put in the Indictment--who knows how many other Cooperating Witnesses may be out there.

Personally, I suspect one of Vick's co-defendants will become CW#5 before the trial is done.

Yes, yes--Vick is innocent until proven guilty in the eyes of the law. But for our purposes here, the ****er's going down.
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What a POS
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Re: Michael Vick...what a POS..

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree in the Vick family. Y in the hell does someone making that much money do something so stupid. I hope he is never able to play ball again. I wish somehow he could get major dough taken from his pocket. I hope he does some major time also. People doing things like this deserves major punishment. This is for you Vick !!!!!!! And I hope you get more of that in prison.

Here is a link about the story: ESPN - Federal grand jury indicts Vick in dogfighting case - NFL

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If he is guilty he is truely an idiot.
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I would love to see that POS get exactly what ge gave to his dogs...
He and his brother have always been, and always will be thugs... He deserves to lose everything he has been blessed with...You can only hide a man's true nature for so long...
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Well I am from Atlanta and he is truly a idiot. Well guess we have DJ Shockley to take over and lead us to the promise land. I also believe that after he is found guilty that he should have to pay the falcons for the remainder of his contract. Since he will breach it once he is sentenced to prison time. What a dumb Ass..
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Re: Michael Vick...what a POS..

BamBam. I fixed your post. Ass is the right word here.
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Re: Michael Vick...what a POS..

Federal indictments are serious things, I know one of my parent's is looking at prosecution in the near future for bribes! it's a nightmare
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Re: Michael Vick...what a POS..

Heard a good one: Instead of testing Ricky Williams for Pot, they should be testing Pot for Ricky Williams...

It never ceases to amaze me what people with talent will squander it on. I have worked for every penny I made, and I enjoy spending it on worthwhile things, and, every once in a while getting something really nice also (BD FJ)...but I know that if I had all the money I could ever want, none of it would be worth as much to me as it is by earning it. I would also like to point out at this time, before becoming too much of a schmoo, that I suck with money, and that Mrs. CheFJ does about 90% of the financial planning for our family, I would sit around, fart and play games with the $$$ if left to my own devices...
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Re: Michael Vick...what a POS..

What a great idiot to represent Atlanta. I hope he sits in jail for the 5 years with his family members...HOPEFULLY Mr. Blank will see what a asswipe Vick is this time. He has given the Atlanta fans the bird, tried to carry his personalize weed holding water bottle on a plane and Mr. Blank still stands by his side.

....what a mistake Falcons made when they traded Schaub!!
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