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Old 01-03-2008, 04:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Land Rover and Jaguar to India

Latest reports are that Ford wants to get rid of Land Rover and
Jaguar. Current favored bidder is Tata, an Indian motor vehicle
builder.

Is this sacrilege or Gandhi's (you decide which one) revenge?

Or just the ultimate imperial irony?
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Old 01-03-2008, 04:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Or just the ultimate imperial irony?
First thing that came to mind when I heard the report!

Maybe they will be smart enough to bring back the Defender!
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Old 01-03-2008, 04:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Land Rover and Jaguar to India

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First thing that came to mind when I heard the report!

Maybe they will be smart enough to bring back the Defender!

Defender never left.

I think this might be a good thing.

Look at the craptastic LR2 - something's gotta change before ford kills the marque
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Defender never left.
Let me restate....maybe they will bring the Defender back to the U.S.?
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Let me restate....maybe they will bring the Defender back to the U.S.?
Can't without a complete redesign - safety requirements
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Re: Land Rover and Jaguar to India

Say goodbye to Jaguar too! A foreign car company will not put the funds or have the experience to meet ever stricter US regulations in the next few years - safety, emission, etc. They will take the current ford designs and market them overseas for the next 25 years, and make tons of money in those growing markets. This is exactly what others have done with computers, tv's, airconditioners, and tractors. I'll hang on to my '58 MkI, maybe it will become more collectable!
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Say goodbye to Jaguar too! A foreign car company will not put the funds or have the experience to meet ever stricter US regulations in the next few years - safety, emission, etc. They will take the current ford designs and market them overseas for the next 25 years, and make tons of money in those growing markets. This is exactly what others have done with computers, tv's, airconditioners, and tractors. I'll hang on to my '58 MkI, maybe it will become more collectable!
Jag's been gone for a long time. They're all built on Ford chassis.

But there is a 'fine car' cult in India among the wealthy. A few years
back I was having dinner in a nice flat in London. One of the guests was
an Indian industrialist who had come over for a heart transplant. In
between discussing the Henley, and the latest happenings at Sandhurst,
the subject of vintage autos came up. Seems our friend and his wife
counted amongst their stable a Bugatti Royale...

I'd suspect that Tata and other car builders in India see the emissions
requirements coming on as an issue on a global scale--- so now is an
opportune time to do for the US and Euro market what they'll have
to do in the world market anyway.
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Re: Land Rover and Jaguar to India

Gasco, although we agree on a good bit, I've got to disagree with your global emissions comment. The last two global emissions comittees (both of which I'm very familiar with having a refrigerant based job) both gave developing countries substantial breaks. China and India both fit that catagory and have since taken great advantage of their emissions advantage. I wouldn't put it past either one to continue to push todays technology well past its prime for their own gain as long as they are allowed to do so by the international community, and current trends and recent proticol will allow it for quite a while!

Edit - I forgot to mention the Indian industrialist had great taste in cars!! I saw this one for sale in Argentina two years ago:
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Gasco, although we agree on a good bit, I've got to disagree with your global emissions comment. The last two global emissions comittees (both of which I'm very familiar with having a refrigerant based job) both gave developing countries substantial breaks. China and India both fit that catagory and have since taken great advantage of their emissions advantage. I wouldn't put it past either one to continue to push todays technology well past its prime for their own gain as long as they are allowed to do so by the international community, and current trends and recent proticol will allow it for quite a while!

Edit - I forgot to mention the Indian industrialist had great taste in cars!! I saw this one for sale in Argentina two years ago:
Nice avatar, by the way.

You may be right, and they may not care. Judging from the number of
new Jags I see on the roads here in the Northeast (versus MBZ and BMW
to say nothing of the Japanese luxury brands), their market may well have
dried up. You'd think that the X-type should be giving AUDI and the AWD
BMW and MBZs a run for their money, but you rarely see them. They came
out with a wagon last year--- I've yet to see one on the road in Bucks
County.

Jag doesn't seem to be winning over anybody new--- the Jag aficionados
may be buying them, but all efforts to open new markets seem to fail.

FIAT and MG didn't stop coming to the US because they didn't want to
sell here. They stopped because nobody wanted what was on offer from
them. That was kind of understandable.

I admit I don't quite get it with Jag. I have never been fond of the XJ-
and beyond bigger cars...I babysat an E-Type for a year and loved it.

Before I bought my first AUDI A4, I drove an X-Type on a snowy
evening. I liked it, I admit. But couldn't get quite as comfy in
it. At the time there was only the sedan, and I wanted a 'hatchback.'
Those two factors put me in the A4 Avant (wagon) which is a '4-door
hatchback.'
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Re: Land Rover and Jaguar to India

X-type= finest Ford Mondeo ever built?

In 2002, Ford decided to redesign its mass-market Mondeo car (sold in Europe) and introduce it as an inexpensive extension of its luxe Jaguar brand. The idea followed the lead of the competing "Baby Benz" and BMW cars that proved popular among younger drivers in the 1980s and 1990s. Ford publicly predicted that the Jaguar X-type would help bump overall Jag sales to 200,000 models a year. But the so-called cheap Jaguar didn't fool consumers, who saw it as a cheap Ford with a Jaguar hood ornament.

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