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#1 (permalink) Old 01-10-2010, 10:28 AM
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wiper problem in real cold weather

First, let me say I've searched this forum and other forums and found no similar problem reported.

And I'm surprised. I just got my FJ, a 2010. And right from the beginning, I have this problem with the wipers, all of them, when the temperature gets below about 15 degrees F.

It's almost like the wipers contract from the cold. They don't clear the whole windshield, almost none of the windshield is cleared. Only the ends of the wipers are in contact with the windshield and only the ends of the wipers clear away the snow, etc. Seems the whole middle of each wiper isn't in contact with the windshield. Consequently, most of the windshield, especially at eye level looking straight ahead at the road is obstructed. Only after a long time driving, after many miles, they finally start clearing completely.

Each time I make sure there was no ice anywhere on the wipers or windshield; I'd blasted the defroster at them for a long time until the windshield actually got warm.

When it's warmer than about 15 degrees, there's no problem. Like I said, it seems that the cold, cold air makes them contract and bow away from the windshield. I can't believe I haven't found anyone else reporting this problem! It happens every time, whether there's been snow/ice on the windshield or not.

Anyone know of this problem?

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Re: wiper problem in real cold weather

It's not a new problem for the 2010's. I really think it depends on how wet the precipitation is (eg. freezing rain, sleet, heavy wet snow), as to whether or not the wipers have issues. In light dry snow, the wipers work fine. However, over Christmas, we had freezing rain w/ heavy wet snow. I had a heck of a time keeping the windshield clean.

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Re: wiper problem in real cold weather

Thanks. But it has no correlation to precipitation. Only temperature, when it gets real cold outside. Even without precipitation on the windshield, I can tell when I spray the windshield fluid to clean the salt spray off. And only the ends of the wipers are in contact with the windshield and clear it away. Only until I've driven many miles, or it gets warmer outside, do they work correctly.

Thanks for the tip about heated wipers, but I'm hoping that there are other non heated wipers, made of a different or slightly different material, that won't react this way. I'd rather have a simpler solution than heated wipers.

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Re: wiper problem in real cold weather

I've experienced similar situations on rare occasions here in Colorado. Do note that there are no aftermarket 'winter blades' that are the same size as the stock ones. And to the best of my knowledge, Toyota doesn't make winter blades for the FJ. So, I'm considering a heated windshield fluid unit:

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Re: wiper problem in real cold weather

There are winter wiper blades made by both ANCO and Trico in 16" and 13" sizes that work on the FJ on Amazon. I haven't used them myself, but maybe these might work for you. I live in KS and have Bosch wipers that seemed to work pretty well in the 15 or less temps that we have had for the last couple weeks and driving though a blizzard in Nebraska. Hope this might help.

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Re: wiper problem in real cold weather

I have winter wipers and it still happens. The middle of the wiper makes a mess and near impossible to see. If I'm going slow, no problem. 70+ miles and hour and forget about using the wipers.
Also... Check that you don't have a pin hole in the rubber. When the condition happens, stop and bend the wipers back and fourth. If it "crunches" it may be water getting in to the rubber cover. This just happened to me this weekend.

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Re: wiper problem in real cold weather

I use standard Anco winter blades and Prestone De-Icer windshield fluid. The only problem that I have seen is from the passenger blade not making full contact in the middle of the blade when it is really cold. I just flex the blade by hand just before starting the FJ after it has sat for a while, and then run the defrost on high for a while.
Winter time I generally leave the heat on defrost and feet for best results.

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Re: wiper problem in real cold weather

This exact same issue happens to me as well. I put on a set of new Anco winter blades (1 - 16", 2 - 13"). When the temp drops below 20, the passenger blade only contacts on the outside edges. The middle blade does the same when it gets even colder. So far, the driver blade has been fine.

Perhaps the rubber is shrinking at extreme temps and makes the blade curl just enough to lift the center off the window.

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Re: wiper problem in real cold weather

i just bought some Trico NeoForm. Had to order the short ones, Advanced Auto has the 16" in stock...
I have to run the deforst on Hi no feet in cold bad snowy weather in order to keep the window clean...

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