Paint Chipping Class Action?

[AF Chief]

Everyone knows blue is a chemically inferior color.

Or maybe the white primer makes chips stand out more.

[eljugador]

rbc24123 previously said:

I agree: I think most chip issues are relagated to the Voodoo Blues.

Maybe we could get a poll and query those who have chipping by color....

There already is one.

paint chips

[pawleisure]

It ain't gonna matter who paints it or what kind of paint they use these fj's don't have enough fenders to cover our big tires.some chips are from other cars. some from your own tires.old cars had a lot of chrome facing forward to take the beating.I love my fj but the paint seems a little too easy to chip.But I don't want more coverage from my fenders either. is there more problems on the east coast where they salt and gravel the roads? our roards in calif are pretty good. one more thing to consider bigger tires that stick out more and more aggressive tread throws more rocks pawleisure

[KD7NAC_07FJ]

AF Chief previously said:

Everyone knows blue is a chemically inferior color.

Or maybe the white primer makes chips stand out more.

I'm not sure if you're making a joke or not but one color is no different then another as far as durability.

I have a few chips myself and if I had clear coated it when I bought it I wouldn't notice any chips at all.

The paint chips stand out because of the white base-coat (not primer though the primer may be white but that's not the point)

I've looked closely at every color of FJ and they all have chips. You would think the black would show chips worse then the blue but I had one sitting right next to my Voodoo and if you looked closely you can see just as many chips in both but they seem to stand out more on the Voodoo with the white base-coat.

I'm going to take mine in and have it clear-coated like I did with my bike and then I will be able touch up chips and buff out any scratches without any problems.

Chips are inevitable people. Lacquer/Enamel paint is hard when cured, rocks are harder. When the two meet at 60+ mph the paint it going to loose. The only way you are going to stop chips is wrap the rig in vinyl, Linex the whole surface or use epoxy polyamide paint (what aircraft are painted with) but EP Paint cannot be buffed out to the shine Lacquer and Enamel can.

[ippon20]

"use epoxy polyamide paint (what aircraft are painted with) but EP Paint cannot be buffed out to the shine Lacquer and Enamel can."

How sweet that would be to have an aircraft aluminum grey look with no shine. I can only imagine that that paint costs an arm and a leg.

[KD7NAC_07FJ]

Actually it is about the same as automotive paint anymore and comes in any color you want. It does have a bit of a "rubbery" but still smooth texture to it. I might just look into it. It does still chip though it takes a lot more force.

Ask anyone who works on commercial airplanes or an airport ramp. The underbelly of an aircraft is usually trashed within the first year. Especially the Alaska Airlines 737s they land on the beach with (fish haulers). Those things get painted I think every other year.

[MarkBNJ]

AF Chief previously said:

Everyone knows blue is a chemically inferior color.

Or maybe the white primer makes chips stand out more.

I believe that they paint the whole vehicle white, and then paint the part from the roofline down in the delivery color. You can feel the edge of the body color paint line.

I don't even have my FJ yet, so pardon me jumping in here, but this might offer some perspective. I have a 2003 G35 sedan that is all chipped to hell on the front of the hood, and on the front of the a-pillars. Back about 2004 or so when it started to get bad I raised hell with Infiniti (lots of other owners were complaining too). The story they gave me was basically: if you don't like it complain to the EPA. Apparently they have had to take the solvents out of their finishes due to outgassing, and now use water-based finishes. They know the paints aren't anywhere near as durable, and so far haven't been able to do much about it. It's a huge problem.

Others with late model vehicles will probably chime in and report little to no chipping, and to that I would say look at the geometry. It's not always a simple matter of verticality, but for whatever reason some vehicles seem more prone. I wonder if you can still get body shops to spray tougher solvent-based finishes, or whether they are similarly constrained.

Fwiw, my G35 was also assembled in Japan. Maybe there is something even more stringent in their codes.

[ippon20]

your right mark. Actually, my ins company that covers my car has it listed a white when they use the VIN. Dealership did the same thing.

[KD7NAC_07FJ]

KD7NAC_07FJ previously said:

The paint chips stand out because of the white base-coat.

As I said

[AF Chief]

Yeah, its a joke. But I'm starting to believe those guys that think yellow is faster. That is until red comes out.

KD7NAC_07FJ previously said:

I'm not sure if you're making a joke or not but one color is no different then another as far as durability.

I have a few chips myself and if I had clear coated it when I bought it I wouldn't notice any chips at all.

The paint chips stand out because of the white base-coat (not primer though the primer may be white but that's not the point)

I've looked closely at every color of FJ and they all have chips. You would think the black would show chips worse then the blue but I had one sitting right next to my Voodoo and if you looked closely you can see just as many chips in both but they seem to stand out more on the Voodoo with the white base-coat.

I'm going to take mine in and have it clear-coated like I did with my bike and then I will be able touch up chips and buff out any scratches without any problems.

Chips are inevitable people. Lacquer/Enamel paint is hard when cured, rocks are harder. When the two meet at 60+ mph the paint it going to loose. The only way you are going to stop chips is wrap the rig in vinyl, Linex the whole surface or use epoxy polyamide paint (what aircraft are painted with) but EP Paint cannot be buffed out to the shine Lacquer and Enamel can.