I dunno man, I don't see Toyota just all of the sudden screwing up their paint jobs. They know what they are doing, maybe there are just more rocks on the roads these days, it was a bad winter...
And for windshields... go hit up a jeep or hummer forum. If you want a vehicle with a windshield at that angle you are going to be chipping glass.
The FJ's are Japan made. Unless Toyota has some new "Kia" like game plan where as they cheap out on whatever is possible (glass and paint in this case) it's not their fault. Rocks hit your paint and it chipped. It's not like it is peeling off.
You want Toyota to cover rocks hitting your paint is what it comes down to. You should be trying to get rocks off your roads or something more productive. You can get the best D@mn paint in the world. Now drive @ 60 plus MPH and put a rock in front of it. Paint chip!!!
If the physics off rocks hitting your vehicle really bothers you, you will never be happy. $h!t happens. Deal with it. Be happy, and enjoy your FJ. If you can't enjoy it because the paint gets hit by pebbles, stones, rocks, really hard bugs, whatever, then I respect your decision to boycot Toyota due to bad paint.
There should be a dealer option for 20 extra coats of clearcoat...
Just because Toyota is number 1 does not mean that all their products are flawless. I've heard Tundra owners having the same problems. Currently, I have paint chips on every side of the vehicle except the rear door. And some of them are high up on the body panels. This has never happened with any vehicle I've ever owned.
If this was a problem with the past winters conditions then it would stand to reason that my Audi would have the same problems. It's not a problem with my Audi, and I have purposely driven that car during the worst pebble conditions.
My current attitude is that Toyota rushed production and did not paint the FJs adequately. When I do get my next paint job, I'll be certain that they put many coats of paint and enough clear coat to handle every day use regardless of the conditions.
I've never had this problem with any of the German cars I've owned, and put over 100,000 miles on my Nissan Pathfinder in similar conditions without any paint chipping. I agree that there should be a dealer option for additional clear coats or additonal warranties you can buy to cover such damages.
Don't get me wrong, I love my FJ but am disappointed by the factory finishes. I'm not going to cause a stink over this one, but again, my business will be lost if they do not take care of the situation.
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I'm with you on that one. But for the time being, I'm going to exhibit some patience. I just got back from a visit with my dealer. My sales guy (who has been stellar and exhibited a high degree of professionalism) inspected my FJ and noted that the chipping was excessive in his opinion. He then spoke with the service manager about the problem.
The service manager stated that the factory representative needed to inspect the damage to see what can be done. She apparently won't be in for another three weeks. So, I now have a tentative date to speak with the factory rep.
I was cordial about the additional meeting and will be looking forward to seeing what the rep has to say. I'm being patient and nice about it for now. I'll report back once I meet with the factory rep. and give everyone an update.
__________________ Missin' my FJ 40 But lovin' my FJ Cruiser
I'm with you on that one. But for the time being, I'm going to exhibit some patience. I just got back from a visit with my dealer. My sales guy (who has been stellar and exhibited a high degree of professionalism) inspected my FJ and noted that the chipping was excessive in his opinion. He then spoke with the service manager about the problem.
The service manager stated that the factory representative needed to inspect the damage to see what can be done. She apparently won't be in for another three weeks. So, I now have a tentative date to speak with the factory rep.
I was cordial about the additional meeting and will be looking forward to seeing what the rep has to say. I'm being patient and nice about it for now. I'll report back once I meet with the factory rep. and give everyone an update.
YUP......I met with my local rep yesterday.....NO GO with the paint.....she said it was "enviromental" and not a warranty issue....she suggested a bottle of touch up paint.....that's just an insane option if you ask me.....I'm taking it to the next level of pursuit....
Kilted makes a very good point, but just to further play devils advocate, I bet a look at one's skids might give an idea of how robustly a vehicle has been playing off road. I guess I'll either be signing up for the touch up paint option or inventing fantastic off road adventure "fish stories" to imress the babes!
__________________ 2007 FJ AT 4WD Pkg 2, Bridgestones, Skid Plate, Rock Rails, Locking Diff., Hitch, Side Airbags, 2nd Horn, & Dead Buzzers.
Two people and a whiner that doesn't deserve to own an FJ does not constitute a mob...but the mentality fits!
For the record, Tnegiet has publicly stated that he has no damage to his paint or his windshield, yet he has made it his personal quest to publicly reject others who are seeking for Toyota to make these two weak links in the FJs armor right.
You're such a tool! I suggest that you get on the FJ approval board so that you can apply the "Tnegiet cool guy test" to approve or reject future owners. Perhaps you can seek that as your next bot promotion!
I don't know what your deal is or why you have such a stick up your okole about people who are trying to make things right to benefit ALL owners. I love how you can count but it only goes to show that your observation is merely a reflection of self! I think that on the contrary, your camp does fit your estimated numbers. On the other hand, the camp supporting legal action with regard to the windshields is growing daily.
Like it or not, you are the nearly silent minority! And certainly the only one left standing to be so vociferous as to summarily reject actions that may positively affect FJ owners. If you had it your way, owners would continue to replace windshields out of pocket for the remainder of their ownership. Because, clearly, the beamoth named Toyota could NEVER put out a bad product...
I can't help it if you are a...Dee, Dee, DEE!
P.S. didn't mean to jack this post...I don't know why some people choose to beat a dead horse after truces were drawn...but suspect It's cause they're a .....Dee, dee, DEE!
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