It's clear you mother was a DEE....and your father was a DEE....cause when they had you, out popped a DEE, DEE, DEE!
And if you are tired about hearing about OUR issues....QUIT READING ABOUT THEM, YOU COMPLETE MORON!!!
It's unbelievable to what lengths you and MTB will stand up for Toyota... without actually admitting you work for Toyota! If you both don't then you should be on their payroll...cause you are persistantly acting like bots!
I totally agree with Eljugador when he stated earlier in this post:
"OTOH, I am having trouble understanding why, with issues that seem to be happening to a significant percentage of owners, someone always feels the need to be a pompous d1ckbag about it when other people decide they would like to do something about it. I guess the Internet is just a good way for pompus d1ckbags to spout off"
Wow! Articulate to go with your cleverness.
It is minutely incredible that you perceive that everyone should think there are problems (whatever you spout at the time) when indeed there are very few problems...Just because you are a loudmouth and b!itch the loudest does not validate your perceptions, in fact it more than invalidates them as insignificant whining.
I do believe that quote applies to you, perhaps you should go read your drivvel in a mirror, nobody here wants to hear it. Jimmy you really are on the road to future former FJ owner...and I believe we will all be the better for it.
If over 11000 forum members choose not to comment about their so-called crappy paint (or whatever you spout at the time) they are either amazingly complacent or don't actually have any issues to comment on...even your juvenile character should comprehend that one.
It is minutely incredible that you perceive that everyone should think there are problems (whatever you spout at the time) when indeed there are very few problems...Just because you are a loudmouth and b!itch the loudest does not validate your perceptions, in fact it more than invalidates them as insignificant whining.
I do believe that quote applies to you, perhaps you should go read your drivvel in a mirror, nobody here wants to hear it. Jimmy you really are on the road to future former FJ owner...and I believe we will all be the better for it.
If over 11000 forum members choose not to comment about their so-called crappy paint (or whatever you spout at the time) they are either amazingly complacent or don't actually have any issues to comment on...even your juvenile character should comprehend that one.
Tnieget,
Why do you place so much interest in my crappy paint job? OHHH, shudder to think that someone would post information that the FJ is inferior...OHHH the horror of it?
Well the truth is the FJ is not perfect no matter how much you might think so. I'm not alone, otherwise I would have been the one to post this thread. News flash, I didn't
Sorry if this bruises your "the FJ is the greatest thing since the invention of the wheel" rocket scientist mentality. Guess that's what they teach you at Toyota Bot U. I've owned cruisers for 20 years and I'll own 'em for 20 more even though it has a crappy paint job!
And you're still a Dee, Dee, Dee! That's genetic, no matter which vehicle you drive!
But in all fairness, are you going to make the same request from every other person who has posted about paint chipping? I doubt it. For what ever reason, you have a stick up your okole to argue with me about my beefs with the FJ.
Well, fine! If you must, you must. I certainly don't have any problems retorting to your insatiable curiosity about my rig. In order to appease you, I just tried to take pictures of the damages but the resolution of the camera is not good enough to show up on my digi camera. In total, there are 80-100chips. Each of the chips is about 1/8 of an inch or smaller. I'd need a micro lens and great lighting to take a decent photo. Guess if you really want to believe me you'll have to fly to Colorado to check out for yourself
I never would have predicted you would use that excuse, figured you had enough skill to take a pic, even with a 2 year old cell phone you could pick up the disaster you call "polka-dot" paint job. Most cameras have a device called a "flash" which helps with the lighting and if you get close enough, they can take pictures up real close, just in case you didn't know that.
Nah, no need to fly. You can just show them to me at the FJSummit...
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JimmyHoops previously said:
Why is it so difficult for you to believe that this is happening? I certainly did not start this thread or twist the arm of any other to post their problems. Again, from the sounds of it you are not experiencing these problems-and that's a good thing. I certainly don't wish this upon you or any other. But the fact remains the same that I think the exterior finishes of the FJC are crap!
Glad you got a good one, mines a lemon on the exterior no matter how much you badger me for proof or attempt to deny my claims. If I were to buy my FJ all over again, I'd wait until the 08s arrive or until the complaints subside. Who knows, maybe the 08s will have crappy exteriors as well.
There we go, that is the word I've been waiting for...LEMON. You actually pulled the lemon card. No one can deny a claim with something as simple as a picture. Just like in any trail run or in the windshield thread, if you can't show a pic, it didn't happen...
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JimmyHoops previously said:
And if you do work for Toyota, send me your direct email address at Toyota and I'll be happy to arrange professional shots to finally prove to you that this is happening. Otherwise, the regional rep will be meeting with me in about 3 weeks for a personal inspection and you can get the low-down from her.
This is still the best part of your dillusion, that in your demented sense of reality, you actually believe I work for Toyota. If you only know how funny that concept is, you wouldn't assert it again. But, you never know, do you...
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Why do you place so much interest in my crappy paint job? OHHH, shudder to think that someone would post information that the FJ is inferior...OHHH the horror of it?
Well the truth is the FJ is not perfect no matter how much you might think so. I'm not alone, otherwise I would have been the one to post this thread. News flash, I didn't
Sorry if this bruises your "the FJ is the greatest thing since the invention of the wheel" rocket scientist mentality. Guess that's what they teach you at Toyota Bot U. I've owned cruisers for 20 years and I'll own 'em for 20 more even though it has a crappy paint job!
And you're still a Dee, Dee, Dee! That's genetic, no matter which vehicle you drive!
You can be as disrepectful and innapropriate to anyone here as you choose to be...it means nothing to me. I find folly in the fact that you are so juvenile towards those that don't agree with you. And yes, a counter opinion to a perceived and expressed FJ fault is as valuable as any other information on this forum because it keeps squeeky wheels, such as yourself, in check. Most of us have not had a problem, the sky is not falling, and I simply choose to counter-point your current Chicke Little attitude...although the quantity of "issues" you have is enormous.
Your FJ may be a total POS, but all of our FJ's are a reflection of their owners.
What you don't realize, and probably never will, is what has already happened.
The silent majority is the 11,000 that choose not to comment. Probably because they have no FJ issues.
I do find it ironic that you would use a childish comedy term from somebody with absolutley no credibility from his fellow comedians in an attempt to insult me...yes, ironic indeed:
You're so smart, you're my hero! Why do you have such a hard time believing that someone out there out of 60,000 FJs could have issues with the vehicle? What do you have to gain from proving me wrong? Yet you try so hard to antagonize me about it my bad experience, that it couldn't possibly be true....Well, my programming about how great the FJ is was incomplete when I left the lot, you automoton.
You have such a Dee, Dee, Dee, mentlality, but I think it stems beyond just being stupid for you and Tnegiet-I think you have finally bridged over and become totally retarded!
When you go for your interview with Toyota, I'd be happy to write you a reccomendation for your loyal, unwavering, devotion to Toyota. You can toe the party line with the best of 'em.
And guess what, the paint still sucks! Why do you two have such a hard time believing that an owner would speak such blasfamy about the beloved FJ. Oh yeah, I know why....cause you're a Dee, Dee, Dee!
You can be as disrepectful and innapropriate to anyone here as you choose to be...it means nothing to me. I find folly in the fact that you are so juvenile towards those that don't agree with you. And yes, a counter opinion to a perceived and expressed FJ fault is as valuable as any other information on this forum because it keeps squeeky wheels, such as yourself, in check. Most of us have not had a problem, the sky is not falling, and I simply choose to counter-point your current Chicke Little attitude...although the quantity of "issues" you have is enormous.
Your FJ may be a total POS, but all of our FJ's are a reflection of their owners.
What you don't realize, and probably never will, is what has already happened.
The silent majority is the 11,000 that choose not to comment. Probably because they have no FJ issues.
I do find it ironic that you would use a childish comedy term from somebody with absolutley no credibility from his fellow comedians in an attempt to insult me...yes, ironic indeed:
Thanks for the psycho-analysis Dr. Freud! But I only have two issues with the FJ:
The paint bites A$$
The front windshield is an overpriced piece of crap
Aside from that, I love it. And I'll continue talking smack about those two issues until they are resolved. Listen up Toyota!
Obviously, I've hit a sore spot with you both. Otherwise you wouldn't be spending hours defending the honor of the mighty beloved FJ.
And for your information, I never asked your opinon about the "outstanding durability" of your FJ, you pompus prick! I don't care about your stellar experience, I'm only commenting on mine!!! And the fact that you would both go out of your way to summarily disprove my experinence just goes to show that you both do not believe in the First Amendment-or have a clue what FREEDOM OF SPEECH means. I've never gone out of my way to disclaim any of your experiences including your pick of the litter FJs.
And who are you to deny the "credibility" of a commedian? Who died and made you owner of The Comedy Store. The guy has his own T.V. show and what does his credibilty have to do with anything?
Oh yeah, I forgot...you're still a tool, you Dee, Dee, Dee!
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Thanks for the psycho analysis Dr. Freud! But I only have two issues with the FJ:
The paint bites A$$
The front windshield is an overpriced piece of sh!t
Aside from that, I love it. And I'll continue talking smack about those two issues until they are resolved. Listen up Toyota!
Obviously I've hit a sore spot with you both. Otherwise you wouldn't be spending hours defending the honor of the mighty beloved FJ.
And for your information, I never asked your opinon about the "outstanding durability" of your FJ you pompus prick! I don't care about your stellar experience, I'm only commenting on mine!!! And the fact that you would both go out of your way to summarily disprove my experinence just goes to show how little you both do not believe in the First Amendment. I've never gone out of my way to disclaim any of your experiences including your pick of the litter FJs.
And who are you to deny the "credibility" of a commedian? Who died and made you owner of The Comedy Store. The guy has his own T.V. show and what does his credibilty have to do with anything?
Oh yeah, I forgot...you're still a tool, you Dee, Dee, Dee!
Your complete lack of respect continues to grow...Obviously you have had a few too many beatdowns in your life and the resentment is evident.
The funny part is nobody is listening to you other than to laugh at you, and you don't even recognize it. Toyota sure isn't gonna care what some loudmouth know-it-all thinks.
"what does his credibilty have to do with anything?" It's the same as yours, nonexistent...Look up irony and you can put them together, or have someone who cares explain it to you.
You have ruined your support for you own issue/s. Although I still believe it is a non-issue (along with a few others).
Your complete lack of respect continues to grow...Obviously you have had a few too many beatdowns in your life and the resentment is evident.
The funny part is nobody is listening to you other than to laugh at you, and you don't even recognize it. Toyota sure isn't gonna care what some loudmouth know-it-all thinks.
"what does his credibilty have to do with anything?" It's the same as yours, nonexistent...Look up irony and you can put them together, or have someone who cares explain it to you.
You have ruined your support for you own issue/s. Although I still believe it is a non-issue (along with a few others).
I have never, ever, ever, ever, given a rats A$$ about what either of you think about my experience with my FJ. And personally I don't care what people think of me or my experience. I have never asked your opinon about it and personally never will. I don't care wether or not you think I have credibility-cause neither of you do either. And credibility for what? Credibility to be an unwavering advocate for the FJ....what a bot-like mentality.
You're right! I have zero respect for either of you and I know you don't have any for me. But news flash.....I don't give a rats A$$ to the tenth degree!
What do you have to gain from trying to disprove my experience aside from being able to sleep at night "KNOWING" you have the best vehicle in the world? And you actually think that your car is an extension of your being-what a load of existentialist crap! They really sold you good at the Toyota bot convention.
You have both acted like good bots! The Toyota gods will award you with free mods for as long as you both shall live! Speaking my mind on these matters is a First Amendment right no matter how you try to disspell it! I'm not trying to win anyone over with my experience, just to share it with them. They can take it or leave it, I don't care.
So why don't you go out into your garage and wipe your beloved FJ down with a diaper and wisper sweet nothings into it's exhaust pipe! You are both so in love with your FJs that I can't tell where your neck ends and the engine block begins.
And you're still a tool (a Toyota tool, mind you) and a Dee, Dee, Dee!
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Two people and a whiner that doesn't deserve to own an FJ does not constitute a mob...but the mentality fits!
WTF? I'm not sure what got up your @ss, but p!ss off. I already stated that I enjoy the vehicle, and was even considering buying one for my wife, but paying 30k for a vehicle that is chipping this bad is not a good move.
If your rig is holding the paint, then congrats. Mine is not, and like JHoops, mine is driven on the weekends only, and hasn't been off road yet. 10k miles now, and the chips are getting worse. Chips on mine started before 4k. This is a problem. Same roads, same weather, and my other cars do not have nearly the battle damage this truck does. My daily driver has over 140000 miles, and the paint is in better shape.
What has gotten me po'd is that I have been very patient, spoken with the dealership, and was told "yep, seems like a problem, and Toyota has said they will repaint"... Now they are saying they will only repaint the a pillars which is not the only place it is chipping. I have chips on the side as well as the front. Not trying to be sue happy. It is not like I'm suing because my coffee is too hot. I'm trying to gauge interest because like has been stated before, now Toyota is acting like they have never heard of any complaints about paint or windshields on this vehicle which is patently false if people on this forum are to be believed, which I would bet they are.
I'm still being patient, I'm trying to work with Toyota (which is why I haven't updated this thread lately). I even told them that I will wait on the paint job and give them time (and my truck) to do some research and find the root cause if they would like so we can take care of the problem for good and not be back in the same situation in a few months. Not sure what else I could do except bend over and just blindly repeat "Toyota is #1 in quality and therefore could do no wrong" like some.
I actually enjoy driving my cars, and washing them, etc. But it kind of takes the fun out of it when you see new chips everytime you wash it, and know you haven't been anywhere fun with it yet. I purposely stay way back from other cars because I have heard so much about the windshields, so I know nothing is hitting the truck hard enough to chip a good paintjob.
If I had been off road, and gotten some pinstripes from trees, my fault, but what is happening is not normal.
Again, congrats for your durable paint job, but not everyone is as lucky as you have been so far.
Thanks for stepping in...I'm not sure why two guys would go to such lengths to basically call us liars. It hasn't happened for them and I think that's great! I would never wish this experience on anyone. But the fact of the matter is that it has happened to us.
Guess I took all the flaming because I REFUSE to back down from my EXPERIENCES! I may have issues with my FJ, but those guys have issues with anyone who happens to have a different world-view. If you move forward with legal action and my local rep trys to feed me a load of pseudo-scientific garbage, then count me in!
No one is twisting anyone's arm here, but it's clear that some people can't stand the thought that some of the FJs rolled off the line in less then perfect condition.
I'm done mental vollying with these morons. If you have anything you wish to share with me on your journey, please do it via PM. I'd be glad to spear-head something with you or exchange experiences in private.
And to MTB and Tnegiet, PISS OFF X 10! This no longer concerns either of you and your showroom condition FJs.
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