You guys, I'm on our side. I have heard this internally at TMS and TTC (Toyota Technical Center). Currently there is no fix in the works from TMC. They do not understand what is causing the problem right now. Currently the belief is there is an abnormal issue with body roll that they are not experinecing on the 4runner which utilizes the same aprons and frame. There is only one vehicle in the Toyota fleet has a boxed reinforced apron which is the Lexus GX.
They are thinking about using the design of the GX apron for the FJ during 09, but they are not planning on retooling the manufacturing plant for this year.
There are two ways Toyota will mandate the change immediatly. If corrective costs outweigh fixing the issue at the factory (TMS was charged 12,800 to fix my rig), or someone (one of us) gets hurt due to the failed crumple zone.
I still believe it is imparative for us to bring up the issue immediatly with our dealer and TMS once we become aware of ripping or buldging.
Good advice. I hope you don't mind the fixes above, RESE.
> What I have heard is Toyota Motor Corporation (TMS Parent Co in
> Japan) has "no appropriate countermeasure in place or planed.".
Well, then...the rocky mountain tech rep who came to look at my truck in Boulder, co, was wrong, and the dealership was wrong when they told me that "Toyota is working on it". Not that I'm disputing you, RESE, but if this IS true, then I'm going to be righteously pi**ed off.
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> What I have heard is Toyota Motor Corporation (TMS Parent Co in
> Japan) has "no appropriate countermeasure in place or planed.".
Well, then...the rocky mountain tech rep who came to look at my truck in Boulder, co, was wrong, and the dealership was wrong when they told me that "Toyota is working on it". Not that I'm disputing you, RESE, but if this IS true, then I'm going to be righteously pi**ed off.
The thing that bothers me most about this issue has been the potiential decrease of value on our FJ's. Now, I never expected this vehicle to retain its value, but this can/will seriously impact trade-in or resale values. I always have planned on retaining my rig (thats why it doesnt really erk me to invest in mods), but alot of us will trade-in for new models.
> What I have heard is Toyota Motor Corporation (TMS Parent Co in
> Japan) has "no appropriate countermeasure in place or planed.".
Well, then...the rocky mountain tech rep who came to look at my truck in Boulder, co, was wrong, and the dealership was wrong when they told me that "Toyota is working on it". Not that I'm disputing you, RESE, but if this IS true, then I'm going to be righteously pi**ed off.
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and once the warrenty is gone who knows what kind of support of lack thereof one would get.
Sorry everyone, but I don't have the time to read all 200 pages. Can some one tell me if anyone is getting support from Toyota with a lift installed?
I have the Sky Jacker 3" adjustable front Coil Over lift on my 07 TRD.
The lift was installed professionally by Chux Trux of Kansas City, MO...actually my Toyota Dealer recomended them.
I know they have every right to deny any warranty work since the issue could easily be blamed on the lift, and I know it is an expensive fix to replace the fender crumple zone. But, I do feel the rips are related to a weak design in the crumple zone.
This also happened on my 2wd Silver FJ, and now on my lifted TRD. The silver FJ was totally my fault as the rips where directly related to a little accident I had on the trails, but the TRD has only be taken off-road a hand full of times on very "light" trails.
