You guys are going to love this...At the Detroit auto show they had the 2008 sepecial edition FJ...All white. The one that they had out was 'used'. So I popped the hood and sure enough there was the buldge on the drivers side. took 2 pics and will try and fig out how to post them. What a f n joke.
You guys are going to love this...At the Detroit auto show they had the 2008 sepecial edition FJ...All white. The one that they had out was 'used'. So I popped the hood and sure enough there was the buldge on the drivers side. took 2 pics and will try and fig out how to post them. What a f n joke.
I find it absolutely amazing that Toyota Corporate doesn't inspect every single FJC it displays for consumer view, to make sure their are no signs of the fender bulging / ripping issue(s). I had the same experience up at the Surf N' Turf '07 offf road event in Nov '07 - The TrailTeam had several FJCs there for folks to check out - I looked under the hoods, and sure enough, they ALL had bulging problems !!! Either Toyota is confident no one will notice that a problem exists, or the corporate personal responsible for these displays has no clue about the issue - a shame, either way, IMO...
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There just doesn’t seem to be any single indicator of this problem. Model year 07,08, with or without mods, high mileage and relatively low miles, on or off road, it just doesn’t seem to matter. It might be why TMC can’t isolate a single cause and thus it may be a combination of various issues.
I was wondering if anyone knew how much more prevalent it is to have the budges or rips occur on the drivers side verses the passenger side. I know some have it on both sides but it seems from this thread that they are more prevalent on the drivers or at least generally occurs there first. Someone had mentioned about the size and weight of the doors. This would seem to make some sense in that the driver’s door is used more often. Certainly none of the other causes would necessarily affect the driver’s side more than the passenger side. It may not be the frequency of the doors opening but they are large and if swung open hard and allowed to swing completely open unabated, may create some excessive stress force. I’m not necessarily claiming this is the cause but it would not surprise me that it could be a contributing factor especially if the driver’s side budges seem to be occurring more frequently than those of the passenger side.
I know, I’m grasping here (maybe due to frustration) due to TMC’s failure to identify to root cause of this problem. Just was curious if the driver’s side was more of an issue and why that would be?
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Max-9, knock on wood...twice. I didn't have any signs of anything until about 22,000 miles on mine. Now at 25K and they haven't really changed. They are both very slight, with the driver's side only bad enough to see without a straight edge.
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...I was wondering if anyone knew how much more prevalent it is to have the budges or rips occur on the drivers side verses the passenger side. I know some have it on both sides but it seems from this thread that they are more prevalent on the drivers or at least generally occurs there first...
The door being opened too far is not the only way to explain slightly higher frequency of bulges on the driver's side.
It could also be that since there's always a driver in the vehicle when it's driving, the suspension has less travel on the driver's side versus the passenger side, so there's a higher frequency of the driver's side suspension stops being contacted, and so a higher frequency of high-force events transmitted by the frame into the inner fenders.
There's a third option: Toyota knows and doesn't give a chit. However, it sure looks to me like farapart's second Det. Auto Show photo has a completely different apron design or it's a photoshop job. Can we get those photos enlarged and put a photoshop sleuth on the trail?
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