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View Poll Results: If you are experiencing body rips or bulges with your FJ, what setup are you running?
Stock bumper, no lift 77 30.68%
Stock bumper, w/lift 25 9.96%
Stock bumper, w/lift and 285/70 17's 29 11.55%
ARB bumper, no lift 2 0.80%
ARB bumper, with lift 9 3.59%
ARB bumper, w/lift and 285/70 17's 16 6.37%
WARN bumper, no lift 1 0.40%
WARN bumper, w/lift 8 3.19%
WARN bumper w/lift and 285/70 17's 8 3.19%
ARB bumper, w/lift, and 255/85 16's 1 0.40%
ARB bumper, w/lift and 315/75 16's 5 1.99%
Demello bumper, no lift 1 0.40%
Demello bumper, w/lift 4 1.59%
Demello bumper, w/lift and 285/70 17's 4 1.59%
Road Armour bumper, no lift 0 0%
Road Armour bumper, w/lift 6 2.39%
Road Armour bumper, w/lift and 285/70 17's 5 1.99%
All-Pro Bumper, no lift 4 1.59%
All-Pro Bumper, w/ Lift 7 2.79%
All-Pro Bumper, w/ lift & 285s 19 7.57%
Stock with Skid Plates 20 7.97%
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Old 04-10-2008, 09:52 AM   #2411 (permalink)
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Erasmus (may have) said that.

"There's a difference between the freedom to speak one's mind and trolling on the internet for one's own amusement and everyone's detriment."

- I said that.
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Old 04-10-2008, 10:03 AM   #2412 (permalink)
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And name calling does not prove a point.

The poster explained the reasons for his claim. And after considering the reasons for his remark, his statement seems to have some merit. In certain ways, it is a downgrade I guess, but only from a certain point of view. In many ways, the FJ is an upgrade too (despite the body rips.). So I can appreciate his view in relation to my current viewpoint.

Looking at his post history, is he really a Troll?
I didn't address an individual, you made an assumption.
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"If we want truth, every person ought to be free to speak what they think without fear."
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Let all speak, and let the FJ stand or fall, on its own.

Being a troll is not freedom of speach
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I didn't address an individual, you made an assumption.

I'm happy to let the readers decide if you were taken out of context...

However, your claim is still wrong. You can be anything and still enjoy "freedom of speach", as you put it. However one must live with the results of what you say: Name calling, disfellowshipping/rebuke from the group think mentality....

There is nothing wrong with Arguing, which is just exploring both sides of an issue, what is regretful is poor argument.
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Old 04-10-2008, 11:37 AM   #2414 (permalink)
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Re: Engine Bay Body Rips

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"There's a difference between the freedom to speak one's mind and trolling on the internet for one's own amusement and everyone's detriment."

- I said that.
Fair 'nough. Kick his/her troll ass out out of here.....Ban the offender!

But does the poster in question deserve this rebuke or this label of Troll? IMHO, not at all...
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Fair 'nough. Kick his/her troll ass out out of here.....Ban the offender!

But does the poster in question deserve this rebuke or this label of Troll? IMHO, not at all...
Who said anything about banning?

Sheesh, doesn't anyone get amusing Dylan references anymore. gzzt.
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Re: Engine Bay Body Rips

have been following this thread for a while. is there an actual tsb number assigned? i haven't seen one yet.
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I'm happy to let the readers decide if you were taken out of context...

However, your claim is still wrong. You can be anything and still enjoy "freedom of speach", as you put it. However one must live with the results of what you say: Name calling, disfellowshipping/rebuke from the group think mentality....

There is nothing wrong with Arguing, which is just exploring both sides of an issue, what is regretful is poor argument.
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That was not my quote either, nice try. You're having a bad day. I'm leaving for Moab now, Cya.
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have been following this thread for a while. is there an actual tsb number assigned? i haven't seen one yet.
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Sheesh, doesn't anyone get amusing Dylan references anymore. gzzt.
"Don't think twice, it's all right."


Now, we can get back to the topic of this thread.

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And, if you prefer another make and model of 4X4, and you think it's superior (or you enjoy insulting us by calling our choice in 4X4s as a "downgrade"), then fine. Just don't use this particular thread or forum as an attention-getting soapbox to boast your preferred vehicle in a continued condescending manner. (I hope that part is understood, Youngster.)
I wish you were qualified to give me such a compliment as "Youngster" I would take it and run with it. Just a certain part in 67 I would like to skip. Have a good day...
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