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View Poll Results: If you are experiencing body rips or bulges with your FJ, what setup are you running?
Stock bumper, no lift 110 30.47%
Stock bumper, w/lift 37 10.25%
Stock bumper, w/lift and 285/70 17's 35 9.70%
ARB bumper, no lift 3 0.83%
ARB bumper, with lift 15 4.16%
ARB bumper, w/lift and 285/70 17's 30 8.31%
WARN bumper, no lift 2 0.55%
WARN bumper, w/lift 13 3.60%
WARN bumper w/lift and 285/70 17's 10 2.77%
ARB bumper, w/lift, and 255/85 16's 1 0.28%
ARB bumper, w/lift and 315/75 16's 6 1.66%
Demello bumper, no lift 2 0.55%
Demello bumper, w/lift 6 1.66%
Demello bumper, w/lift and 285/70 17's 5 1.39%
Road Armour bumper, no lift 0 0%
Road Armour bumper, w/lift 8 2.22%
Road Armour bumper, w/lift and 285/70 17's 6 1.66%
All-Pro Bumper, no lift 4 1.11%
All-Pro Bumper, w/ Lift 11 3.05%
All-Pro Bumper, w/ lift & 285s 29 8.03%
Stock with Skid Plates 28 7.76%
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Old 07-14-2008, 06:36 AM   #2591
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Slight bulge as of this past Sunday. Definitely no bulge before this happened.

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Didn't see the ditch I was coming up on, probably doing about 10 MPH. The ditch dropped straight off and came right back up, kinda like a U. It wasn't even deep enough to bottom out.

Dropped down, came right back up, front wheels came off the ground, came back down hard. Got out, popped the hood, new bulge.
Yup, like i suspect, it's a matter of time among off-roaders and those with aftermarket mods...the bulge will come at a later time in those who are mall-crawlers. This is a DESIGN/STRUCTURAL flaw, not a material flaw. This is why Toyota still has no solution to this flaw.
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Yup, like i suspect, it's a matter of time among off-roaders and those with aftermarket mods...the bulge will come at a later time in those who are mall-crawlers. This is a DESIGN/STRUCTURAL flaw, not a material flaw. This is why Toyota still has no solution to this flaw.

Well what would you recommend the off-roaders and mall-crawlers do about this? If we are all doomed to have bulges and rips do you recommend waiting for a solution or selling off your rig? Just curious what you plan to do.
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Well what would you recommend the off-roaders and mall-crawlers do about this? If we are all doomed to have bulges and rips do you recommend waiting for a solution or selling off your rig? Just curious what you plan to do.
I don't have a plan yet. I'm thinking about pulling everything apart and seeing if there is anything I can do myself, but just thinking at this point.
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Old 07-14-2008, 06:30 PM   #2594
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IMHO, the best option is to get Toyota ext. warranty to, at least, assure yourself of having a better argument against Toyota in the future to fix your rig.

BTW, i have no association to Toyota nor have a FJ for that matter. (My brother has FJ.) And i recommend my brother the same as above.
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IMHO, the best option is to get Toyota ext. warranty to, at least, assure yourself of having a better argument against Toyota in the future to fix your rig.

BTW, i have no association to Toyota nor have a FJ for that matter. (My brother has FJ.) And i recommend my brother the same as above.

1) Would an extended warranty even cover inner fender problems?

2) You don't own an FJ and you have 690 posts on here? Wow that's impressive, I own one and only have a little more than 100 myself. It looks like you own a Mercedes G500, did you realize there is a forum for that vehicle?

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I actually WATCHED one FJ go from a little dimple to a huge bulge. We checked them before a run, then again afterwards, and there was definately a difference in the size of the bulge.
Not saying he "caused" his problem, it was alrealdy bending. I am just saying; Once it starts, it is easy to bend it further.
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IMHO, the best option is to get Toyota ext. warranty to, at least, assure yourself of having a better argument against Toyota in the future to fix your rig.

BTW, i have no association to Toyota nor have a FJ for that matter. (My brother has FJ.) And i recommend my brother the same as above.
I recommend, maybe you should have your brother read you the coverages and exclusions page of the policy you recommend.




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1) Would an extended warranty even cover inner fender problems?

2) You don't own an FJ and you have 690 posts on here? Wow that's impressive, I own one and only have a little more than 100 myself. It looks like you own a Mercedes G500, did you realize there is a forum for that vehicle?

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"Extended warranties" do not cover body panels, they cover the repair or replacement of electrical, mechanical and electronic components on your vehicle.

If you wanted to find a remedy through something like Thai's plan you would be better off just ramming your FJ into a good solid wall and filing a claim with your insurance carrier...

Extended warranties also don't cover defects in material or workmanship, the original factory warranty however, does.


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"Extended warranties" do not cover body panels, they cover the repair or replacement of electrical, mechanical and electronic components on your vehicle.

If you wanted to find a remedy through something like Thai's plan you would be better off just ramming your FJ into a good solid wall and filing a claim with your insurance carrier...

Extended warranties also don't cover defects in material or workmanship, the original factory warranty however, does.


If Toyota was to refuse coverage of this issue would an insurance company possibly cover it? It seems like body damage is really the only thing insurance companies cover on a vehicle. Maybe I am wrong, just curious.

I am moving to the Memphis area in two months from Hawaii (military orders). Are there a lot of places to offroad in that neck of the woods? I can certainly PM you more on this as I do not want to totally pull this post off subject. Saw you were in Nashville and thought I would ask.
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I don't have a plan yet. I'm thinking about pulling everything apart and seeing if there is anything I can do myself, but just thinking at this point.
While I understand your pessimism, trying to "fix it yourself" is ridiculous, IMO.
Toyota is the most cash -rich automotive manufacturer in the world, and is currently devoting substantial resources to find a cause and solution to this problem. While there are some who feel Toyota is trying to hide this problem, I think that's short sighted. They stand much more to lose if this becomes a public relations nightmare in a down-turned market.

While it is some sort of design issue, it does not appear to be a major structural design defect, as the frame and running gear that support the vehicle are uneffected by the problem. I have not seen any as bad as the rips on my FJC, yet it drives fine.

So, I'll remain frustrated and patient - and continue to drive my FJC daily...
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While I understand your pessimism, trying to "fix it yourself" is ridiculous, IMO.
Toyota is the most cash -rich automotive manufacturer in the world, and is currently devoting substantial resources to find a cause and solution to this problem. While there are some who feel Toyota is trying to hide this problem, I think that's short sighted. They stand much more to lose if this becomes a public relations nightmare in a down-turned market.

While it is some sort of design issue, it does not appear to be a major structural design defect, as the frame and running gear that support the vehicle are uneffected by the problem. I have not seen any as bad as the rips on my FJC, yet it drives fine.

So, I'll remain frustrated and patient - and continue to drive my FJC daily...
True, and good advice, but it has been almost a year on this thread now. I knew it would happen to me eventually, and as soon as I came down it was the first thing that went through my head. I am thankful it's not as bad as some as the pictures posted here, but it will probably get worse if something isn't done to stop it.
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