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View Poll Results: If you are experiencing body rips or bulges with your FJ, what setup are you running?
Stock bumper, no lift 110 30.47%
Stock bumper, w/lift 37 10.25%
Stock bumper, w/lift and 285/70 17's 35 9.70%
ARB bumper, no lift 3 0.83%
ARB bumper, with lift 15 4.16%
ARB bumper, w/lift and 285/70 17's 30 8.31%
WARN bumper, no lift 2 0.55%
WARN bumper, w/lift 13 3.60%
WARN bumper w/lift and 285/70 17's 10 2.77%
ARB bumper, w/lift, and 255/85 16's 1 0.28%
ARB bumper, w/lift and 315/75 16's 6 1.66%
Demello bumper, no lift 2 0.55%
Demello bumper, w/lift 6 1.66%
Demello bumper, w/lift and 285/70 17's 5 1.39%
Road Armour bumper, no lift 0 0%
Road Armour bumper, w/lift 8 2.22%
Road Armour bumper, w/lift and 285/70 17's 6 1.66%
All-Pro Bumper, no lift 4 1.11%
All-Pro Bumper, w/ Lift 11 3.05%
All-Pro Bumper, w/ lift & 285s 29 8.03%
Stock with Skid Plates 28 7.76%
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Old 09-13-2009, 10:44 AM   #3221
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Re: Engine Bay Body Rips

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The "fender skirts" aren't much more than the thin metal shields "protecting" the front of the under carriage (except they support some misc. devices and the battery)!

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They are more than that, if bent pretty well with a big bulg they move the entire fender back and narrow the gap between the front door and the fender. Once replaced and put back together the gap is back to specs. If you have big bulges check th door gap too.
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Old 09-13-2009, 10:28 PM   #3222
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Re: Engine Bay Body Rips

I have been scheduled for arbitration.

I have selected the "Doccuments only" review by a 3 member panel. I will submit my own info against Toyota's photo's and doccuments, and they will decide.

I think with enough pics and info, I can get a fair hearing. If it falls through, I will Tube and rollcage this truck so it lasts, and hang the fenders back on it. I hate to do all that crap to make a solid truck, but I want to get back to 4 wheeling, and not have to check under the hood for cracks after every run.

I am getting statements from my insurance company, and a senior insurance estimator, as well as a reputable body shop about the relative non-existance of this problem on any other vehicle.

That, along with the littany of cases doccumented on here (with pictures) should alert the panel to the widespread nature of this problem, and then compare that to Toyota's weak claim that it is just "frame impact" or a bumper that caused this.

Anyone wanting to forward me thier testimony or doccuments from any body shop or engineers would be appreciated.
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Old 09-14-2009, 09:48 PM   #3223
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I think it would be great if all of us who are headed for arbitration would share our packets of info. The documentation previous folks used would also help those who follow.

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Old 09-14-2009, 11:00 PM   #3224
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Re: Engine Bay Body Rips

i'm just gonna weld a few feet of my neighbors old bed frame up in thar and be dun with it
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I hope they will return at least some of what I am sending in. I am making 5 3 ring binders with color copies of each picture with circles and arrows and captions at the bottom of each one ......

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Re: Engine Bay Body Rips

Please keep us posted. I just noticed my truck has the bulging as well. I hope they do something about it.
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Re: Engine Bay Body Rips

the dealer got the ok this week to fix my inner fender rips just waiting for all the parts to come in
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I hope they will return at least some of what I am sending in. I am making 5 3 ring binders with color copies of each picture with circles and arrows and captions at the bottom of each one ......

You get the idea.
They didn't even really look at my binder that much. They just flipped through them and asked Toyota what they wanted to see happen, what I wanted to see happen, and ruled in my favor. Good luck! Stick it to em!
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I was at surf and turf at Pismo this weekend and came down a dune about 7-10 mph during the night and ended up nose diving the driver side atleast that is what best describes why my front tuberware bumper has a crack and my license plate got smashed. My problem is that the driver side crush zones was slightly compressed with obvious signs of tear in the metal. The front fender was removed due to the fender being smashed up to the door making it to difficult to open driver door. What should I do? Try toyota and ask for apron replacement, or should I go with my insurance?
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I was at surf and turf at Pismo this weekend and came down a dune about 7-10 mph during the night and ended up nose diving the driver side atleast that is what best describes why my front tuberware bumper has a crack and my license plate got smashed. My problem is that the driver side crush zones was slightly compressed with obvious signs of tear in the metal. The front fender was removed due to the fender being smashed up to the door making it to difficult to open driver door. What should I do? Try toyota and ask for apron replacement, or should I go with my insurance?
Sounds to me like you caused the damage in this case. you should go with your insurance.
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