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Old 04-12-2008, 05:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've got nothing but the run around from Toyota so far. No actual offices that can "do something" are open on the weekend...and I don't know how we're going to drive her home I would guestimate 400 miles. We were told it'll be ok to drive...we're going to try to get the broken piece from the third member in the diff...but is there anything else we should be aware of? Is this diff failure known within the dealers/service dpts? Is it based on the dealerships disgretion who covers and who doesn't? Did they reimburse you on the tow bill?
Let me know your experiences please!!
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Old 04-12-2008, 06:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: blown rear diff!

I'd just try to get it back to Grand Junction and park it at the dealer there.

Rent a car to get back to Denver if you need to.

How'd it happen?

Was the locker on?

Rear Diff is a known bugaboo... glad mine has held solid...

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Old 04-12-2008, 06:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: blown rear diff!

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I've got nothing but the run around from Toyota so far. No actual offices that can "do something" are open on the weekend...and I don't know how we're going to drive her home I would guestimate 400 miles. We were told it'll be ok to drive...we're going to try to get the broken piece from the third member in the diff...but is there anything else we should be aware of? Is this diff failure known within the dealers/service dpts? Is it based on the dealerships disgretion who covers and who doesn't? Did they reimburse you on the tow bill?
Let me know your experiences please!!
I know it's tough....but try and have some patience. Sucks to be in that situation, especially on vacation far from home. Since it's Saturday, corporate can't really do much for ya.

I saw in the blown rear diff thread you had an 10/06 build date. I think that's technically still the "bad" sets of gears from Mexico. Hopefully, the dealer you take it to will know about the problem and won't blame "modification" as an excuse to void the warranty. Personally, I'd get it squeaky clean before taking it in and try to claim that you don't wheel it...unless of course you have visible rock scarring on the undercarriage....in which case, you're going to have to admit you do use it. Regardless, if you only have factory warranty, you may be hosed....I think you said you were at 37K miles...not sure if warranty ends at 36K.

I don't agree about it being "okay" to drive. Is it "bucking" at all? Even if it isn't, I'd still recommend you jack it up, take off both rear wheels, take out the 4 bolts on each backing plate to the brakes, slide the axles out, then unbolt the rear driveshaft at the pinion and pull the third member. Check and see how much damage is there and fish out all the broken gear pieces. Then you'll have to decide how to proceed based on what the gears look like. If there's teeth missing or visible fissures, I'd say remove the rear d/s and drive slowly to the dealer with front wheel drive. Don't be surprised if it bucks and makes all kinds of noise as the ring and pinion come apart. If it seizes or creates drag, you may have to pull the third to continue on....but be aware, you're going to have leave oil in the housing to lubricate the outer wheel bearings. At that point, you may end up having to pull the ring off the carrier by first taking off the 4 cap head bolts holding the carrier into the 3rd member. It's not like it'll matter.....that gear's junk. But at least then you can use the broken third as a "plug" for the giant hole in the housing....hell, it may be better to just do it BEFORE you start trying to drive to avoid any seizing issue....though Toyota will likely claim your disassembly voids the warranty b/c they can't see what caused the failure.

It should be obvious though that having it towed on a trailer would be a the optimal (though most costly) solution. Too bad I'm not up there or I'd just tow you in to the closest dealership.

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Old 04-12-2008, 06:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: blown rear diff!

check your insurance and see if you have towing on it, if not if you have AAA they cover towing and rentals also.. good luck..
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Re: blown rear diff!

uhaul truck and trailer.


tell them you are towing a corolla though :P
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Re: blown rear diff!

Really sorry to hear of your situation. I agree with Sean that driving with loose bodies inside can create a MAJOR issue. I also agree that you might be better off parking at a dealer close to where you are and doing the rental thing. And, yes, do the quick wash thing to get it as reasonably clean as you can. It sounds stupid but that seems to be one of the things which set off the service managers who say no. I wouldn't count on Toyota picking up anything at this point.

Yes, there have been a number of those who had their repaired under the warranty and there are an equal if not greater who have not. There are Toyota Trail Team members who have had the "weak" gears "documented" to some extent which may help with potential warranty work. Send an PM to BMThiker, he may be able to point you in a good direction after he went through this late last year.

I'm riding in an early build also and am so paranoid about this happening to me also. One of the reasons I am tempted to do a re-gear just to have a fresh set of gears in the rear as well as the front.

Again, sorry to hear of the failure. Let's hope the FJ community can help you along with this issue...
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Re: blown rear diff!

My opinion is don't drive it...It could be dangerous and much more damaging!
It should be cover for 60,000 miles.

GOOD LUCK!!!!!
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Re: blown rear diff!

READ THIS......

I have had 2 rear diffs and one front diff replaced so far....no cost yet!!!
Then an auto tranny....and the list goes on.....

Let ME know what you need.....

Clean it and act dumb......
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READ THIS......

I have had 2 rear diffs and one front diff replaced so far....no cost yet!!!
Then an auto tranny....and the list goes on.....

Let ME know what you need.....

Clean it and act dumb......
Anything went wrong with the new one yet? U must have some major connections in the service dept.

Mine was built in may of 06 im semi paranoid about the gear's also. Im hoping I got the good batch though.
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Anything went wrong with the new one yet? U must have some major connections in the service dept.

Mine was built in may of 06 im semi paranoid about the gear's also. Im hoping I got the good batch though.
The new rig is flawless.....well...except for all the damage I've put it thru already
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