Ok - question for you guys. I have been through a fair bit of mud. I do no submerge my FJ - never will, the electronics on the floor are way to expensive and important.
But I still have gotten that fine silty mud up in the pulleys and the main pulley even started squeaking a bit at one point. All I did was get in there, hose it out real well and douse the baring area with WD40. No more squeak and after reading about all these replacements I check the pulleys for ware all the time but I don't seem to be having any issues since the WD40 treatment.
Ok - question for you guys. I have been through a fair bit of mud. I do no submerge my FJ - never will, the electronics on the floor are way to expensive and important.
But I still have gotten that fine silty mud up in the pulleys and the main pulley even started squeaking a bit at one point. All I did was get in there, hose it out real well and douse the baring area with WD40. No more squeak and after reading about all these replacements I check the pulleys for ware all the time but I don't seem to be having any issues since the WD40 treatment.
Anybody else tried cleaning and oiling them?
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I've never owned an off road vehicle that did not requires some special service routine specific to that machine. So I guess removing the pullies on a regular basis affter wheeling is a good idea. Washing them out as soon as possible is also a good idea. Think I will rig up a bilge pump and hose for the FJ. I have one for my ATV to clean out the radiator when it gets muddy.
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Thanks but that didn't answer my question. I would like to know if people are attempting to clean the pulleys after purposefully getting them dirty or do they just hear the squeak and run to the dealer to get them replaced?
It sounds like some people may be attempting to clean them but I get the impression a lot of people are crying foul at the first squeak and running to the dealer crying warranty.
Like NCFJ stated if you take your vehicle off-road, any vehicle, you should expect to be doing some maintenance.
I get the impression there are a fair amount of people who have never been off-road, buy an FJ (which is much more rugged off the show room floor but still requires up-keep) and freak at the first sign of ware.
I was going to say maybe its me but I look at Dragon, Steve and a number of other experienced off-roaders and I typically don't see complaints but solutions.
I'll agree the pulleys could be engineered better to protect them but I don't know any vehicle with a serpentine system that has any better pulley system from the factory. There are some great aftermarket manufacturers who design for off-road but now you are into production costs verses how many are going to really go off-road blah blah.
I just think people should take some responsibility themselves before crying foul all the time and that may be just me
I agree wholeheartedly...I didn't get my pulleys warrantied. Although many on this thread have. I was merely bringing to their attention that this is not an unusual situation, and that they can service them on their own.
I bought a set straight out when mine first started making noises. I ran a little while longer, then did a trip that required lots of water crossings which sent the squealing to a new level. That's when I changed them out and cleaned up the old ones for potential spares (only kept one).
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Thanks but that didn't answer my question. I would like to know if people are attempting to clean the pulleys after purposefully getting them dirty or do they just hear the squeak and run to the dealer to get them replaced?
It sounds like some people my be attempting to clean them but I get the impression a lot of people are crying foul at the first squeak and running to the dealer crying warranty.
Like NCFJ stated if you take your vehicle off-road, any vehicle, you should expect to be doing some maintenance.
I get the impression there are a fair amount of people who have never been off-road, buy an FJ (which is much more rugged off the show room floor but still requires up-keep) and freak at the first sign of ware.
I was going to say maybe its me but I look at Dragon, Steve and a number of other experienced off-roaders and I typically don't see complaints but solutions.
I'll agree the pulleys could be engineered better to protect them but I don't know any vehicle with a serpentine system that has any better pulley system from the factory. There are some great aftermarket manufacturers who design for off-road but now you are into production costs verses how many are going to really go off-road blah blah.
I just think people should take some responsibility themselves before crying foul all the time and that may be just me
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KD7NAC_07FJ, I think you are on the mark. Toyota advertises the FJ as an off road capable machine, and it is. With some modifications the FJ is a very capable off roader, we all know that. But there is a higher maintenance curve on a vehicle that you take off road. More oil changes, more fluid changes, brakes included, more filter changes, more lubes, more spark plugs you get the idea.
The bearing are obviously an issue and Toyota is well aware of it, they replace enough of them and with few issues to the owner. So either Toyota finds it just cheaper to replace the pulleys with the same bearings rather than to change, or perhaps they don’t consider the amount of pulleys they are replacing to be high. So until they replace the bearings the problem will remain. So either maintain it or replace it, either way the pulleys will require attention if you get them muddy.
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someone please post some pics of the new pulley's...
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I agree wholeheartedly...I didn't get my pulleys warrantied. Although many on this thread have. I was merely bringing to their attention that this is not an unusual situation, and that they can service them on their own.
I bought a set straight out when mine first started making noises. I ran a little while longer, then did a trip that required lots of water crossings which sent the squealing to a new level. That's when I changed them out and cleaned up the old ones for potential spares (only kept one).
Just so you know. The reason the service guy thought I had beat mine up was partly because he was looking at your old rock rails before I repainted them. ha ha
someone please post some pics of the new pulley's...
Not sure what you mean by "new pulleys"??
Toyota only has one type of pulley, they have not come out with anything new but if you want to see clean factory pulleys look at BMTs thread a few posts up. There is a link to the pulley tech article with a number of pics.
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