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Old 09-10-2008, 12:40 PM   #11
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Re: Jeep and FJ mixed???? Lookie Lookie

I'd just stick with something Japanese... mainly a Toyota...yep you said it, an FJC. Chinese are still very new to the innovations of cars not alone they have no experience in making an off-road vehicle compared to the many years experience Toyota and Jeeps have. No offense to the Chinese but I would rather stick with a company that I trust with years of innovations.
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Re: Jeep and FJ mixed???? Lookie Lookie

For 12gs that not bad. I will let someone else but it first and see how much they put theirs through.
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I think it would look awesome in a topless version. Of course that statement is true for a lot of things...
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Re: Jeep and FJ mixed???? Lookie Lookie

Id rather have an ARO but I'm biased

It's the ARO

Just like my POS Blazer, the rear door opens the wrong way (away from the curb). And I'm sure it'll have even MORE issues than the ZR2 did, which was plenty for me thank you. After my experience with pocketbikes, seeing a friend's chinese buggy, it is safe enough to say i will NEVER trust my life to anything "Made in China" if I can help it.
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...yep you said it, an FJC. Chinese ..... have no experience in making an off-road vehicle
Only for the last 50 years or so making military "mall crawler" vehicles.

BTW: This thing is a result of an original joint venture with AMC/Jeep that started in 1979
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That being said they are sure to last if they are based on the military vehicles that BAW has been making for over 50 years



civilian version B2036


0-100 Km/h is around 23 seconds....

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for $12 k? That is awesome.


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I have waited for the ARO for years now, 1st it was supposed to come into the country with a ford sourced V6 then a diesel...nothing!

Have any even made it to these shores?

I bet the Chinese can make excellent off road vehicles....they are good at military stuff. I like their machine guns

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Regarding the ARO/Crosslander:

It's the ARO
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This thing has gone through at least two rounds of fund-raising in the last 22 years.

I remember the last time when Automotive News reported that dealers were signing up and paying franchise entry fees. It never came to pass.

There are lots of ways to make money in the car biz.

I don't think there were ever more than three on US soil actually.

The factory is closed now as far as I can tell and the location is is being considered by Renault as a component production facility.

Think 4WD Yugo

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In September 2003, the Romanian state sold, for a price of 180,000 USD, 68.7% of ARO to an American company called "Cross Lander", owned by John Perez. The contract said that the company had to invest 2 million USD in the company, but, allegedly, none of this investment was done and instead, the industrial equipment of ARO was sold off (according to the privatization contract, he was not allowed to do that).[1]

The Romanian state sued in 2006 John Perez for using false documents which helped him to buy the company.[2]

The ARO 244 model was planned to enter the US market as the Cross Lander 244X, but funding ran out in February 2006 [3].

The company Cross Lander USA Inc fired all its employees, sold its headquarters and closed down in February 2006.

ARO went into bankruptcy in June 2006.[5] The company Amrom Automotive 2006 is negotiating with ARO creditors to purchase the company from bankruptcy, and plans to resume production of the ARO line of vehicles under the ARO name at the Cāmpulung factory. Current plans expect a production of 1,200 vehicles by the end of 2006.

The ARO 10 off-roader was symbolised as one of the rewards given by Nicolae Ceauşescu to women who gave birth to ten or more children.



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Getting It Through the EPA
Back home, government certification tests were never-ending and expensive. Not to mention frustrating. Perez says his attorneys advised him to be patient and polite with the EPA testers. One day an EPA representative called and asked, "Does your car have a reverse gear?" "Yes," he replied. "Yes, it does."

Perhaps the most confounding part of the process was the "shed test," where, Perez says, the vehicle is locked in an ovenlike shed and exposed to heat for an extended period of time, during which the hydrocarbons emitted by the plastic and upholstery inside the vehicle is measured. (this is one of the reasons there's an activated charcoal "second" filter in the FJ's intake) Initial tests suggested the Cross Lander would fail miserably. The only alternative was to strip a car and test the interior bits and pieces, one by one, and find the offending parts and replace them.

It took four months, Perez says, and cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. Only after this process was well under way did an associate tell him how some of the major manufacturers handle the shed test. They take the test cars, park them in the desert for four months, during which period the hydrocarbons dissipate. "Then they submit the vehicle for testing," Perez says. "I said, 'Now you tell me!'"


News: Romanian Cross Lander SUV Hits Import Snag
We've been waiting for the Romanian Cross Lander SUV to hit the states for years. That it was the favored ride of an ex-(ecuted) Eastern European dictator, or that its technologies haven't been current since Wolfman Jack last guest-hosted the Dick Cavett Show are less important to us than its sub $20,000 price tag and English-country looks. We're also touched by a company whose employees are so loyal, they offered to donate their sperm in exchange for money to pay back millions in company debt. Unfortunately, with the SUV's importer having trouble getting the four-wheeled time machine federalized for the US market, there's never been a better time for a sperm drive than right now.
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Re: Jeep and FJ mixed???? Lookie Lookie

Do we need to start getting special attachments for our recovery gear? Or do they have standard pick up points?
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That is a Chop suey!!!!
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