BTW I got the coordinates from the book. So this is their published trail location and waypoints. You will see when you zoom in that it's a little ways off the actual Google trail overlay, but it appears to be close enough.
Todd, thanks for that map. Could I get your other maps too . I never made the backside of Black Canyon (eastern portion). I think that's where I got a little lost. I ran the trail backwards. The book mentioned doing this trail with Starbright Trail. Did you find that trail? I couldn't' Google it.
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Yeah of course - I am still figuring out how to export all the maps at once instead of individually. I'll send em when I pull it off.
We should get Frog in on this. He probably has a ton of files. BTW there is very little available out there as far as trail files. I looked for awhile and we'll have to do our own like this.
I do know that if you buy the $400 Google earth, then we would be able to just select a trail that's already on there. Now that would be perfect, both for speed and accuracy.
I am all over that October run. I love that area. used to camp out there for score races in the early 80s all the time.
Tbones and chili cook off on an overnighter sounds awsome.
BTW Tony, I have a book down in my FJ, can't remember the name now, but it gives trail details along with some good history for this area. I will lend it to you the next time I see you.
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Wouldn't Google Earth Plus do the same thing as the Pro version? Not sure how the "Spreadsheet Data import" is measured. The Plus version has 100 points and the Pro version has 2500. Are the point individual routes or points on the route?
Thanks for the book offer Rick .
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Yeah I have been fooling with it this whole time today and you don't need Pro.
HOWEVER I made a major discovery that will really help.
All you have to do to get the whole trail to highlight and be save-able is:
1. Put a pushpin at the beginning and ending.
2. Then get directions to and from.
3. That route will show up in My Places.
4. Now you can right-click it and do whatever with it...(!)
The only catch is when Google does not have a trail overlay for some part of the route. It can't go off the trail. So now I am fooling with draw tools to figure out how to make that work somehow, but I may have to go back and forth to TopoUSA to be able to do that.
That's handy to know. I'm leaning towards the Microsoft Street and Trips 2008 (August 25th release). I like the ability to retrace your steps. Makes exploring easier. TopoUSA looks really good too. Maybe just get both.
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I am coming up against a brick wall drawing routes in GE. It appears they don't want to allow export of the roads they have depicted on GE.
GE would work just fine for us, for trail nav like Microsoft Street and TopoUSA - IF - they allowed us to draw roads over areas that don't have a road.
From the trail books, maybe a third of the trails don't follow published roads. So you need to be able to draw in the rest, or there's no trail, and using the computer for nav is kaput.
- Right now I can use TopoUSA to draw a road, and export it into GE for viewing on the satellite.
- However, the drawn road is never accurate; always off by a hundred feet or so. DeLorme (TopoUSA) charges for poorer-quality satellite images that are not good enough to draw-trace your own road over.
- Only GE gives us a satellite overlay to ensure that we are drawing a road over the exact right spot. - GE will let you draw a line, but they won't let you save it as a road.
Yes, in GE you could laboriously draw every curve and corner of every trail and then export that as a kml. However, it would not be recognized as a route by GE - only a draw object. On the trail, your position icon would still show up along the drawn trail however.
TopoUSA has unlimited editing and pushing around of waypoints and trails - Google has none. However only Google gives a high-enough quality satellite image to trace over.
So it either use GE and draw your own trails, or use TopoUSA and get trails that are less accurate when you have to draw them.
. I never made the backside of Black Canyon (eastern portion). I think that's where I got a little lost. I ran the trail backwards. The book mentioned doing this trail with Starbright Trail. Did you find that trail? I couldn't' Google it.
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