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Old 03-27-2009, 06:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Another black eye for "Off-road enthusiasts"

Just as they are trying close some more of our precious few places to go, so idiots come along and do something like this. I am sure that it was not the "Off-road enthusiasts" as it is eledged in the article but yet it was a bunch of teens or just a bunch of idiots. I hope that if those people are on this forum they read this and realize that they have screwed everyone in the Off-roading community.


George Washington & Jefferson National Forests - Newsroom

New Castle , VA (March 25, 2009)...The Forest Service has placed an emergency road closure on Patterson Creek Road in Craig and Botetourt counties. Over the past two weekends, people driving off-road vehicles have caused approximately $30,000 worth of damage. Law Enforcement Officers have cited 39 individuals for multiple illegal offenses. John Price, the Law Enforcement Officer on scene, assures the public "We are committed to stopping this abuse of the national forest and we intend to make those convicted pay to repair the damage.

The damage to the environment is extensive. Illegal cross-country travel has destroyed vegetation and wildlife openings. Mud-bogging in the creek, riparian areas, and on the road itself caused extensive erosion. Five days after the damage occurred, the creek remained cloudy from sedimentation affecting water quality in Patterson Creek. It will take 6-12 months before the area will once again provide food and nesting benefits for wildlife. Eastern Divide District Ranger Cindy Schiffer states "We are deeply saddened that people would destroy our public lands and we will implement measures to ensure this doesn’t happen again."


Locked gates are now in place on Patterson Creek Road (FDR 184) in Craig County and at the intersection of SR 612 and O & I Road (FDR 5020) in Botetourt County, restricting access on 6.5 miles of FDR 184 and FDR 818. Gates are locked until further notice.

Damage to roads during the winter and spring is a long-standing problem. Most road damage occurs in January, February and March when roads are soft from freeze/thaw patterns followed by spring rains. Even legal activities and proper use of the roads may cause damage during this time period. Ranger Schiffer is considering implementing seasonal road closures on most Forest Service roads on the Eastern Divide Ranger District from January through March of each year.

(Quoted from Roanoke Times Off-road enthusiasts charged over damage to forest areas - Roanoke.com)

Off-road enthusiasts charged over damage to forest areas
By Laurence Hammack

National forest officials have brought charges against 39 off-road enthusiasts who like to gun, spin and slog their four-wheel-drive vehicles through woods and meadows.

The practice, known as "mud-bogging," has caused about $30,000 worth of damage to a section of the Jefferson National Forest in Botetourt and Craig counties, said Woody Lipps, law enforcement patrol captain for the forest service.

Most of the people charged in recent weeks were given summonses to appear in federal court on charges of driving their vehicles off a designated road and damaging government property or resources.

Other charges include drunken driving and underage possession of alcohol.

Mud-boggers apparently revel in spinning their tires to throw around as much mud as they can, causing particular damage to open areas that forest officials have cultivated to foster wildlife.

"This has taken years to accomplish," Lipps said of the affected areas. "And now it's a mudhole where we have to start over."

Mud-boggers usually drive traditional sport utility vehicles or souped-up pickup trucks with oversized tires.

Most of the offenders have been four-wheeling at night and on weekends on Patterson Creek Road, which runs along Caldwell Mountain in Botetourt and Craig counties.

Forest officials have closed a 6.5-mile stretch of Patterson Creek Road, which is accessible from Virginia 606, indefinitely.

Until recently, vehicles had been permitted on the road. But much of the mud-bogging damage has happened when the offenders decide to leave the road and take their vehicles on cross-country routes.

While some of the cases will be handled in state court, most of the offenders will be required to appear in U.S. District Court in Roanoke, where they will likely face fines.

"We are committed to stopping this abuse of the national forest, and we intend to make those convicted pay to repair the damage," said John Price, a forest service law enforcement officer.
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Old 03-27-2009, 06:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Another black eye for "Off-road enthusiasts"

It's such a shame that the disrespectful few ruin it for the whole.
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It's such a shame that the disrespectful few ruin it for the whole.
As is the case with ANY group.

Also see motorcycle groups
Also see compact car owners
Also see water bottle carrying people on airplanes
Also see religious nut jobs
Also see conservatives
Also see liberals

and the list goes on.
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What these “enthusiasts” have done is reprehensible! That being said, this is when the four wheeling communities need to step forward and fix the damage. This story does not pertain to our majority. It is about the criminals that damaged our forest!
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Want another example, as released just the other day...
National Park Service News Release
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: DATE: March 24, 2009
CONTACT: 252-473-2111, ext. 148

Vandalism of Ocracoke South Point Resource Protection
Closure Signs Results in Expansion of Buffer

On Monday morning, March 23, National Park Service (NPS) staff discovered vandalism of symbolic fencing marking a shorebird pre-nesting closure at the South Point area on Ocracoke Island. Five “Area Closed” signs on 2” X 2” wooden posts were broken off at the sand line. Vehicle tracks were visible at three of the broken signs but no footprints were observed in the area.
As required by the court ordered consent decree, a deliberate act of vandalism to fencing results in a mandatory 50 meter expansion of the closure area. Due to the narrow width of the beach at this location, ORV access is now allowed along the ocean shoreline to the southeast corner of the point, but precluded past that location by the mandatory buffer expansion. Pedestrian access below the high tide line is permitted past the buffer expansion along portions of the inlet shoreline outside of the established pre-nesting area.

Superintendent Mike Murray reiterated the need for all parties, including the public, to comply with the consent decree requirements. “This deliberate act of vandalism is contemptible and appears to be aimed at reducing access for the many park visitors who do comply with park regulations. This is an early reminder that future acts of intentional vandalism to resource protection areas will result in greater expansion of the buffers as required under the consent decree,” stated Murray.

In 2008 the park experienced six deliberate violations of resource protection areas and each time the buffers were expanded. Destruction of government property and entering a resource closure are federal criminal violations, each subject up to a $5,000. fine and up to six months imprisonment. If anyone has information about this violation, please call National Park Service Law Enforcement Rangers at 252-928-5111.
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Re: Another black eye for "Off-road enthusiasts"

Anyone with a 4 wheel drive is lumped into one big group. It hurts all of us in the Southeast or West or where ever because the Forest service or whoever can use that as fire power. Why cant they just stay on the trail.
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I may be off base here, but I think it would be a good idea for the off road groups in those areas to contact the forestry offices and offer to help repair the damage and to help monitor for violations. If nothing else, a gesture of good faith may help some. I'd also suggest that all goups make it mandatory that deliberate violation of group/state/national rules would result in notification of authorities. It may sound a little strict, but showing the powers that be that we can and are willing to police ourselves may prevent futher restrictive rules from being implemented.
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terrible news...

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I may be off base here, but I think it would be a good idea for the off road groups in those areas to contact the forestry offices and offer to help repair the damage and to help monitor for violations. If nothing else, a gesture of good faith may help some. I'd also suggest that all goups make it mandatory that deliberate violation of group/state/national rules would result in notification of authorities. It may sound a little strict, but showing the powers that be that we can and are willing to police ourselves may prevent futher restrictive rules from being implemented.
i think there is a lot of good in this idea
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What these “enthusiasts” have done is reprehensible! That being said, this is when the four wheeling communities need to step forward and fix the damage. This story does not pertain to our majority. It is about the criminals that damaged our forest!
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I may be off base here, but I think it would be a good idea for the off road groups in those areas to contact the forestry offices and offer to help repair the damage and to help monitor for violations. If nothing else, a gesture of good faith may help some. I'd also suggest that all goups make it mandatory that deliberate violation of group/state/national rules would result in notification of authorities. It may sound a little strict, but showing the powers that be that we can and are willing to police ourselves may prevent futher restrictive rules from being implemented.
Agreed on ALL points. We have been fighting the good fight in NW Florida for a while as well.

HERE is an example of what needs doing: NW Florida Eglin Clean-up
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I may be off base here, but I think it would be a good idea for the off road groups in those areas to contact the forestry offices and offer to help repair the damage and to help monitor for violations. If nothing else, a gesture of good faith may help some. I'd also suggest that all goups make it mandatory that deliberate violation of group/state/national rules would result in notification of authorities. It may sound a little strict, but showing the powers that be that we can and are willing to police ourselves may prevent futher restrictive rules from being implemented.

X2 !

Instead of lamenting "we are not all the same" the volunteer repair idea just might be a good opportunity to demonstrate actions over words and maybe (just maybe) secure some mitigating "good press". I'm sure this is being done in some areas and by some groups - if so, good for you !
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