You are a man of exquisite taste, my friend! If I weren't a few state lines away, I would be on your doorstep with beer in hand.
Oklahoma is a state of unsung barbecue excellence. Sandwiched between Texas and Kansas, you KNOW there has to be a flow of influences. In fact, I found barbecue in Oklahoma City when I was passing through and it was quite good. That was a random stop. Had I some guidance I'm sure I would have tried more than one vendor.
Unfortunately, Oklahoma is NOT a mecca for rock crawling. Oklahoma is amazingly flat. The biggest rock I saw in Oklahoma as I came through was in the landscaped center island of a hotel's circular front drive, and it was surrounded by wood chips and flower pots (otherwise I could have crawled it easily).
If you should desire to do some rocky 4 wheeling in Arizona canyons, I'd be happy to make a barbecue event out of it too. Nothing's too good for a forum member.
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mlovett previously said:
me too (+ Zinfandel). My dad lives SOMEwhere in the hills above Phoenix -- does that count?
If all it takes to get you here is a good Zin, you should probably know that I already have several stashed in my wine cabinet. I also have a Merlot that my father gave me which is waiting for the right occassion and several Cabs that I'm told are going to be fantastic but I haven't broken into yet.
If it gives you just a bit more of a push... I've started using a touch of Merlot in the beans when I mix in the chopped bits of "burnt ends" which I carve off of the larger briskets.
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t2cruiser previously said:
They let you Zoners play with matches????????
Who needs matches? This is Arizona. I have two choices for fire starting which are much better. In the summer, I just use a magnifying glass. In the winter, I'll back off 15 yards and fire two rounds into a sterno can which I cover with fire wood.
[quote=BellyDoc;560832]Oklahoma is a state of unsung barbecue excellence. Sandwiched between Texas and Kansas, you KNOW there has to be a flow of influences.
Where I was born and raised, one could obtain two sets of skills....BBQ or growing MJ. Fortunately, I took the BBQ route and learned from the best around. Our family grew up on ethnic cajun cooking along with NE texas hardwood pit smoking....the ORIGINAL way, with a big hole in the ground and seasoned wood that we burned down into charcoal ourselves. We also have family in Kansas City that have been in the BBQ industry for 4 generations. Most of my childhood memories involve the family getting together with all the neighbors and doing the BBQ thing all weekend. And no, it is NOT the same as grilling.
Unfortunately, Oklahoma is NOT a mecca for rock crawling. Oklahoma is amazingly flat. The biggest rock I saw in Oklahoma as I came through was in the landscaped center island of a hotel's circular front drive, and it was surrounded by wood chips and flower pots (otherwise I could have crawled it easily).
You got that right. Where I live, I can stand on a brick and see all the way to Canada on a clear day. Which is why we frequently make road trips to NM and Colorado to hit the trails and see some scenery.
If you should desire to do some rocky 4 wheeling in Arizona canyons, I'd be happy to make a barbecue event out of it too. Nothing's too good for a forum member.
PM me if you are interested in what is regularly rated as the nation's best base BBQ sauce. It is a regional brand that hasn't hit the national scene YET. Every time I travel out of state, I lug a case of it along at the request of my friends, (most of whom are fellow-physicians).
If it gives you just a bit more of a push... I've started using a touch of Merlot in the beans when I mix in the chopped bits of "burnt ends" which I carve off of the larger briskets.
Burnt ends. That is TRULY the most flavored piece of the brisket. In fact, we would fight over who got to use them. Just that you know what a burnt end IS, shows that you have been taught the RIGHT way.
we used to dig a hole in the sand fill it up with Kiawe (mesquite) let it burn down throw a old wire rack that was laying around at the beach and throw everything on it we got that day
my buddy and I would usually come back with about 10-20 lobsters and fish
the hunter guy would always bring down the deer meat others would bring down chuckers and pheasant
others would bring the rice and desert and drinks
Lanai was one of the best places on earth to live before the Batu took it over (batu is ice or meth)
our marinade was always pineapple (appropriate for the pineapple isle) and shoyu and brown sugar and ginger basic tery sauce
I have yet to have true BBQ brisket ? I had it in a tub thing from costco ? not thinking that counts
Honu, you are in for a real treat. Before I was fortunate enough to call Hawai'i home, I lived in Texas and Tennessee for 15 years. Different style of BBQ everywhere you go. KC, OK, TX were some of the best I've ever had. I've yet to try the AZ style, but if Doc's posts on his new smoker are right on, I will have to make a stop in AZ some time with a hearty appetite and empty stomach.
Hey Sooner FJ,
Ya been out to Clayton, Poteau or Disney? There are rocks in the state, you just have to know where to look. Those areas weren't really my cup of tea....lots of hp and throttle required, not so much finesse....but definitely hard stuff.
In all actuality, I had a few quasi-rock crawling (I use the term VERY loosely) places near OKC....don't have any idea if they're still open or not though.
Whereabouts are you in OK? I'm debating dragging the buggy out for Christmas this year.
Sean
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Hey Sooner FJ,
Ya been out to Clayton, Poteau or Disney? There are rocks in the state, you just have to know where to look. Those areas weren't really my cup of tea....lots of hp and throttle required, not so much finesse....but definitely hard stuff.
In all actuality, I had a few quasi-rock crawling (I use the term VERY loosely) places near OKC....don't have any idea if they're still open or not though.
Whereabouts are you in OK? I'm debating dragging the buggy out for Christmas this year.
Sean
Sean, Right now, we live in western Oklahoma....the flat, dry, barren part of the state without many trees or changes in elevation. I was born and raised in SE oklahoma, so I am very familiar with Clayton and Poteau. You are right in the fact that they are "zoom and go" areas. There are a few guys around OKC that hit the riverbeds on a regular basis (mainly highly-modified off-road only jeeps), but it is nothing like what you guys have out west.
AZFJ faithful
(batu is ice or meth) 
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