ghost towns sound awsome!!!! a friend of mine in brian head (s.w. ut) knows where a few are outside of cedar city ill try to pick his brain about where they are ..he might even have gps locations......
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Last summer we went down to a canyon north of Moab that was a private ranch for years and years so the Native American artifacts have been untouched. The Dude that owned it recently passed away and left it to the state. It is currently gated with full-time archeologists working there, but my dad belongs to some indian artifact preservation club, and they pulled some strings and got us in. It was a huge canyon so we didn't have a ton of time (nor did the ranger/archeologist guy seem interested in showing us) to see the really cool stuff, but we saw a bunch of granaries and stone circles where they had permanent structures, and a ton of pictograms/petroglyphs.
My pops was just asking me the other day if I would be interested in a trip to Moab this year to look for some things he's been told about. (I think his Grand Cherokee is too wussy to get where he wants to go) I will try and contact him tomorrow and try to get some ideas about places that might be cool. There are also some ghost towns out west of the great salt lake that we've been to. We've spent a good amount of our summers growing up looking for spanish treasure in the uintahs. His best friends dad was a sheep herder and got caught in a bad downpour up there, and rolled under a large boulder near a river bed to get out of the rain. When his eyes adjusted to the light he saw that it went back and opened up into a cavern. So he crawled back there and found a bunch of spanish conquistador bodies layed out with some cannons and swords and stuff. It freaked him out pretty badly and he never went back. He took something with him though (I don't recall what.) that made his story credible. There were also spanish symbols carved into the Aspen trees all around there (a few years ago we went back and someone has cut them all out with a chainsaw. Just the symbols not the trees, someone is obviously hiding something.) We never found a dang thing besides the symbols.
I think my dad was bitten by the bug as a child. When he was like 9 he was out playing in my grandma's irrigation canal and found 4 spanish gold coins. He has a collection of arrowheads and fossils and a ton of crap he dug up with his metal detector. I think he's kind of a nerd, but he's entertaining to listen to.
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P.S. I'm still working on a quote to get the emblems made up. I don't think they are going to be cost effective though. I guess we'll see when my vendor gets back to me. I wonder if we could find a place that would mill them out cheaper and we could squirt paint or resin into the recesses. The plastic moulding stuff comes with a large minimum order.
Also I need to remind everyone that we don't have to do my idea. If you all like it I'm flattered, but I don't think my ideas are the best ones. (designers are very self critical)
VoodooChica has the right idea with the brainstorm thoughts. (P.S. I went to high school in Layton) What imagery can we use that is unique to Utah that we can thumb in everyone else's face and make them wish they were half as cool as us, said coolness being a direct result of where we live.
It's too bad some people are snotty, but I'm sure that soon enough anyone in a lesser club that is worth anything will migrate on over to the in-crowd. And if they are cool enough we might let them hang out with us. (The high school memories have spurred this sudden need to classify everyone and separate myself from any undesirable people )
No, but seriously, I'm stoked that I've found a group of folks (although I've yet to meet any of you) that seem so chill. I can't wait to get together.
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"I see you all lookin' at me, sayin: How can he be so skinny and yet live So Phat?!?"
-Mike D. (Beastie Boys)
P.S. I'm still working on a quote to get the emblems made up. I don't think they are going to be cost effective though. I guess we'll see when my vendor gets back to me. I wonder if we could find a place that would mill them out cheaper and we could squirt paint or resin into the recesses. The plastic moulding stuff comes with a large minimum order.
Also I need to remind everyone that we don't have to do my idea. If you all like it I'm flattered, but I don't think my ideas are the best ones. (designers are very self critical)
VoodooChica has the right idea with the brainstorm thoughts. (P.S. I went to high school in Layton) What imagery can we use that is unique to Utah that we can thumb in everyone else's face and make them wish they were half as cool as us, said coolness being a direct result of where we live.
It's too bad some people are snotty, but I'm sure that soon enough anyone in a lesser club that is worth anything will migrate on over to the in-crowd. And if they are cool enough we might let them hang out with us. (The high school memories have spurred this sudden need to classify everyone and separate myself from any undesirable people )
No, but seriously, I'm stoked that I've found a group of folks (although I've yet to meet any of you) that seem so chill. I can't wait to get together.
Would that be Layton, or Northridge? I'm a Lancer!! When were you there-year/s?
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Last summer we went down to a canyon north of Moab that was a private ranch for years and years so the Native American artifacts have been untouched. The Dude that owned it recently passed away and left it to the state. It is currently gated with full-time archeologists working there, but my dad belongs to some indian artifact preservation club, and they pulled some strings and got us in. It was a huge canyon so we didn't have a ton of time (nor did the ranger/archeologist guy seem interested in showing us) to see the really cool stuff, but we saw a bunch of granaries and stone circles where they had permanent structures, and a ton of pictograms/petroglyphs.
My pops was just asking me the other day if I would be interested in a trip to Moab this year to look for some things he's been told about. (I think his Grand Cherokee is too wussy to get where he wants to go) I will try and contact him tomorrow and try to get some ideas about places that might be cool. There are also some ghost towns out west of the great salt lake that we've been to. We've spent a good amount of our summers growing up looking for spanish treasure in the uintahs. His best friends dad was a sheep herder and got caught in a bad downpour up there, and rolled under a large boulder near a river bed to get out of the rain. When his eyes adjusted to the light he saw that it went back and opened up into a cavern. So he crawled back there and found a bunch of spanish conquistador bodies layed out with some cannons and swords and stuff. It freaked him out pretty badly and he never went back. He took something with him though (I don't recall what.) that made his story credible. There were also spanish symbols carved into the Aspen trees all around there (a few years ago we went back and someone has cut them all out with a chainsaw. Just the symbols not the trees, someone is obviously hiding something.) We never found a dang thing besides the symbols.
I think my dad was bitten by the bug as a child. When he was like 9 he was out playing in my grandma's irrigation canal and found 4 spanish gold coins. He has a collection of arrowheads and fossils and a ton of crap he dug up with his metal detector. I think he's kind of a nerd, but he's entertaining to listen to.
LOL, that's what we do too. I'm working on a project to photograph and document some of these sites for a more comprehensive book than is available now. I've plowed through dozens of books and stories about this stuff. We've spent several seasons adventuring to these sites and this year it's time to bring folks along. I could care less about treasure, it leads to trouble and my treasure is my family. Still, some of those sites are protected by folks unknown and there is a great deal of safety in numbers. There are hundreds of sites with bodies and artifacts like you were discussing. The Spanish documented so many trips and mines in the area that it's patently ridiculous when I hear about the Mormons being the ones to explore and settle the area. There was a great uprising of Indian slaves and the Spanish were driven back, stashing huge ch aches of gold and silver bars, leaving sites like they thought they were returning the very next month. We've found so many fun sites. We also led a trip with Smiggette and Mr. Tibbs around the Salt Lake in a day. We visited all the old ghost and rail towns on the transcontinental railway and I'd love to return! I'm eager to try out my new metal detector lol.
Last summer we went down to a canyon north of Moab that was a private ranch for years and years so the Native American artifacts have been untouched. The Dude that owned it recently passed away and left it to the state. It is currently gated with full-time archeologists working there, but my dad belongs to some indian artifact preservation club, and they pulled some strings and got us in. It was a huge canyon so we didn't have a ton of time (nor did the ranger/archeologist guy seem interested in showing us) to see the really cool stuff, but we saw a bunch of granaries and stone circles where they had permanent structures, and a ton of pictograms/petroglyphs.
I read an article a few months back (in Men's Journal, I think) about that area. It sounded really cool! Any chance you could get a few FJs back in there?
Also send me a pm with some details about the stickers (quantity, size etc) you'd want made up. I know someone that does vinyl work. I've got a friend getting a 3 foot BYU logo for his kids room for $35.00.
I read an article a few months back (in Men's Journal, I think) about that area. It sounded really cool! Any chance you could get a few FJs back in there?
Also send me a pm with some details about the stickers (quantity, size etc) you'd want made up. I know someone that does vinyl work. I've got a friend getting a 3 foot BYU logo for his kids room for $35.00.
My dad would have to make the arrangements. It was kind of a weird trip though. Like I said the ranger didn't seem to excited to show us around so it was kind of a drive for a while, stop, every one get out "look way over there on that far side wall, native americans lived there" okay everyone back in drive some more. I've seen a lot cooler things with my dad that we could have touched if we wanted to.
Thanks for the help on this. I'm not 100% we are going to do just vinyl but we'll see what happens. I'm waiting on a quote for some plastic emblems (very similar to the old land cruiser "4 wheel drive" logo). Nothing is decided yet though so we'll keep in mind that you know a guy. One thing you might want to ask him is if he has a Gerber edge. This means he will be able to print on vinyl and cut it.
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-Mike D. (Beastie Boys)
Hey UTFJ folks...
I would like to toss in something for your thoughts regarding this summer...
I am traveling from Phoenix up to Canada to run the Continental Divide on dirt all the way to Mexico with a stop at the Fj Summit.
On my way north I plan to stop over in Salt Lake City for a dinner meet & greet with 4x4 clubs to bring attention to Disabled Explorers, a resource I am working on to help with disabled use of vehicle dependant access to the backcountry. I want to fight trail closure and get more folks in the great outdoors.
It would be great to meet up with your group..the plan in still in the works but at this point it looks like I would be in Salt Lake City Sunday July 6th (after driving up from Las Vegas). After a 7 hr drive I doubt I will have time to hit a trail but an outdoor/park/trailhead meet & greet with hotdogs and such would be great..we can camp or hotel either that night.
I know this is only 1 night out of your 2008 plans but it would be a great attention getter for you group, promote a good cause and nice chance to meet all of you that won't be the Summit.
thanks
1 Leg Lance
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Hey UTFJ folks...
I would like to toss in something for your thoughts regarding this summer...
I am traveling from Phoenix up to Canada to run the Continental Divide on dirt all the way to Mexico with a stop at the Fj Summit.
On my way north I plan to stop over in Salt Lake City for a dinner meet & greet with 4x4 clubs to bring attention to Disabled Explorers, a resource I am working on to help with disabled use of vehicle dependant access to the backcountry. I want to fight trail closure and get more folks in the great outdoors.
It would be great to meet up with your group..the plan in still in the works but at this point it looks like I would be in Salt Lake City Sunday July 6th (after driving up from Las Vegas). After a 7 hr drive I doubt I will have time to hit a trail but an outdoor/park/trailhead meet & greet with hotdogs and such would be great..we can camp or hotel either that night.
I know this is only 1 night out of your 2008 plans but it would be a great attention getter for you group, promote a good cause and nice chance to meet all of you that won't be the Summit.
thanks
1 Leg Lance