Yeah. I never saw any of this coming... I'm glad you've got it all figured out for me. I guess I just don't appreciate the wilderness as much as the next guy, despite a willingness to sacrifice the ability to drive over it. I'm content to enjoy the privilege I have now and save the right to walk on it for my feet.
Geez, do you need a ladder so you can get the **** over it?
That's not what either of us were saying at all (and FYI, there were several other posters that mentioned the same pitfalls).
What you fail to be grasping is that everything that land agencies tell you isn't the truth in most instances.
But whatever, you'll find out on your own soon enough.
Good luck with it.
Sean
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Do you need a ladder so you can get the **** over it?
Geez, do you need a ladder so you can get the **** over it?
As much as I agree with your view on the subject, you need to back off.
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From what I have read, the law is going to take significant land use assays, examinations, surveys, etc, IF the enforcement is not to be arbitrary. I wonder if the responsible governing body will be taking into consideration whether a route is an established right of way from point A to point B, whether it has an 'established' use as an OHV route, and will consider any impact studies which carry any amount of validity. Or, will designation be determined by the politically environmental policy bent of the persons comprising the designating committee or governing body? Like someone else mentioned, we are relying on humans to decide, and humans are not always endowed with common sense and fairness.
So we need to wait until the signs are up? What if a trail has been determined to be off limits but I missed the sign because I came in on an off-shoot? Think Lamartine: want to guess how many signs that would take? Will the phrase and practice "Ignorance of the law is no excuse" be enforced? Where is the master list? Will the enforcement officials carry it? If I am stopped, and there are no signs or postings, I want proof that the trail I am on has indeed been deemed prohibited from use by OHVs.
Yes, these laws are enacted for a reason and one of those reasons is the knuckleheads that don't know how to keep their beer cans in their Chevy Monster Truck. I have stopped people on the trail, calling attention to their bad behavior. However, not all are willing to be confrontational. It would be ideal to be able to police ourselves, but that is an ideal. You know some tard will tell us to f*off while yelling like the Duke Boys, kicking up tundra as he guns the engine to race away. As long as I am spouting on ideals, how about better policing of the routes in existence??? Too late, the law has been passed.
So, motives and human idiocy aside, how to we influence what trails are deemed off-limits? Anyone know?
my 2 cents.
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XDI Intake; Firestone Destination MTs; Bilstein 5100s; AllPhase Custom Skid; Garvin Wilderness extension roof rack; Custom control arm skids; Racing Stripes added when "Road Narrows".
Stay on the trail or I'll have to shame you into behaving.
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Damn, I had that one coming! 
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