Reasons why CBers should consider HAM Radio - Page 5

1leglance · 09-12-2007, 11:30 PM

look for ham shops near you
online hamradiooutlet.com
I like yaesu
and I have heard good things about Icomm & kenwood
prices depend on what you want but the most popular offroader radio right not seems to be the yaesu 7800 2m/70cm dual band on sale for $250 w/ free sep kit so you can remote mount the head anywhere...
search here, expeditionportal.com forums and ih8mud.com forums for lots of info

**Chatsworth 818 FJ** · 09-12-2007, 11:34 PM

Dont like the rules, If I want to cuss , burp, sing drunk, and talk trash over the radio CB allows me HAM its illegal . I want the freedom to do that on any channel. My dad is a HAM has a great set up. So I hear him talk a lot, the conversations arent my cup of tea, and the conversations I have on my CB arent his.

1leglance · 09-13-2007, 12:22 AM

hey and that is great Chats...
cuss , burp, sing drunk, and talk trash over the radio

that is why I prefer ham

**KD7NAC_07FJ** · 09-13-2007, 12:40 AM

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fjpenguin previously said:

How come? I thought the licenses were supposed to cover a range of frequencies and rx power. Since CB doesn't even require a license, what stops you from using any piece of equip you see fit, as long as you keep inside the legal freqxpower range?

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5150 Cruiser previously said:

Where do i get a ham radio, and what are good brands? I know ICOMM is good, but are there others? How about price ranges?

Come one guys!!!! I'm sorry but you really need to actually read the thread. Both of these questions have been answered in this thread and some more then once.

I've got at least three posts talking about type rated radios and 1leglance posted up not only prices of a good set-up but a place to get Ham gear and talked about a group buy.

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1leglance previously said:

hey and that is great Chats...
cuss , burp, sing drunk, and talk trash over the radio

that is why I prefer ham

Ditto

Expat · 09-13-2007, 01:09 AM

CB is great for trail driving, especially in convoys.

The problem is when the group might need to be seperated by either

1. Breakages
2. Multiple trail groups
3. Complicated terrain

then CB becomes very limited.

In a run at Big Bear a few weeks ago one of the guys very nearly lost his truck over the side of a mountain during the late evening while traveling a back route. He ended up having to walk for two hours with some basic survival stuff until someone (fortunately) happened along and gave him a ride into camp. If he had Ham we would have known his predicament immediately and been able to respond without risk to him and his passenger wandering dark trails and mountains.

Again unfortunately, we only had two Ham radios in the group that weekend. Mine and a handheld. The handheld was sadly lacking in range and for the best part of a day we had groups coming and going without any comms while the car was being rescued by a private recovery company. It was very frustrating not to able to be in comms with each other and everyone wondering where everyone else was.

To me, Ham is necessary for emergency and convenience, where cell phones don't have coverage, and and sat phones are great, again...if others have one too. Not much use tho when I have a sat phone and I try ringing my buddy who's somewhere on a trail with a cell phone with no coverage.

Ham is pretty cheap relatively for the safety and convenience factor and I would highly recommend anyone invest in one if you offroad alone, and for comms in places where normal comms won't work.

Cheers
Mark

W6XPT

Expat · 09-13-2007, 01:11 AM

and a quick "motivational" shot

FlyNdrive · 09-13-2007, 04:44 AM

O.K. In all reality when is the last time you were asked to produce your ROL? When is the last time someone using a GMRS was charged operating outside of the FRS frequencies?

When I say the regulations are lax I mean that no one cares anymore, so do what you want, but face the consequences. As long as your not K-Fed ripping off Janet Jackson's Bra, or rebroadcasting Howard Stern's Sirius feed over public airwaves you should be fine.

1leglance · 09-13-2007, 05:39 AM

don't worry flyndrive I won't stop you doing what ever you want with YOUR radio, however anytime someone ask what they CAN do I like to let them know what the legal & proper way of doing things are...if they choose to do otherwise I would hope they would be smart enough to lay low about it.
As stated elsewhere in this thread and on other threads Amat. Radio is mostly self policeing and has stayed that way due to a RESPECT for the law and a desire to keep the freq we currently have by not giving the FEDS any excuse to take them away and sell off to comm interest.
Again you can get an all band radio and setup a few antennas and Tx all over the spectrum...hey you can even buy all that equip w/out any paperwork other than the paper money in your pocket...
However I would hope that just like with regards to Tread Lightly and our leading ny example when we are offroad....can't we lead by example in other areas too....or is the redneck cb spewing 4x4er just too good an image to pass up?

fjpenguin · 09-13-2007, 06:15 AM

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KD7NAC_07FJ previously said:

Come one guys!!!! I'm sorry but you really need to actually read the thread. Both of these questions have been answered in this thread and some more then once.

I've got at least three posts talking about type rated radios and 1leglance posted up not only prices of a good set-up but a place to get Ham gear and talked about a group buy.

Well, let's start by trying to be courteous.

I read all posts on the thread before I posted this question. Pardon me if I missed something. Here's my post again:

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fjpenguin previously said:

How come? I thought the licenses were supposed to cover a range of frequencies and rx power. Since CB doesn't even require a license, what stops you from using any piece of equip you see fit, as long as you keep inside the legal freqxpower range?

I've never looked this stuff up, so I may have gotten the whole principle wrong...

All your posts on the subject simply state that it is illegal to use HAM equipment to operate in CB freqs. I am asking why that would be the case, given that, in theory, a HAM enthusiast should be able to build their own equipment (as you state yourself on an early post). So you could build a device that transmits in both HAM and CB frequencies (as long as you keep yourself to authorized frequencies), given that your HAM license wouldn't preclude you from transmitting in CB frequencies (which require no license).

Sean K. · 09-13-2007, 06:30 AM

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FlyNdrive previously said:

O.K. In all reality when is the last time you were asked to produce your ROL? When is the last time someone using a GMRS was charged operating outside of the FRS frequencies?

When I say the regulations are lax I mean that no one cares anymore, so do what you want, but face the consequences. As long as your not K-Fed ripping off Janet Jackson's Bra, or rebroadcasting Howard Stern's Sirius feed over public airwaves you should be fine.

Here's the problem though....your fellow HAM geeks will snitch you out....and you know what Payton Manning says about snitches, right?

It's the way they play their game. Frankly, they can keep it. They claim it's to keep the integrity of their medium....and I can see that point and agree with it to an extent. However, I have a distinct feeling that there's a little more to it than that for most of these guys.

JMO,

Sean