Official word is 'Apple Authentication Chip'. apparently the new ipods wont output video to an external source w/o this chip. These existing hardware obviously do not have them. However, there seem to be the possibility of software work arounds. At least i know Kenwood is. Check it out. New 160gb iPod Classic and Kenwood - Crutchfield Community
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Official word is 'Apple Authentication Chip'. apparently the new ipods wont output video to an external source w/o this chip. These existing hardware obviously do not have them. However, there seem to be the possibility of software work arounds. At least i know Kenwood is. Check it out. New 160gb iPod Classic and Kenwood - Crutchfield Community
I'll believe it when I see it. It's a hardware issue, not a software issue from what I've been reading. either way I found an old 5.5 gen so I'm happy. Screw the new iPods.
DAMMIT! Why the hell would Apple pull some crap like this!? Jesus, and people wonder why I always "hate on them" for their monopolistic ways! GOD! Now we are going to have to buy a NEW cable or, we are just flat out screwed. I've been reading up and it seems it's because they removed a PIN on the bottom which allowed you to get video out...which means these new iPod classics (which are replacing all other regular iPods) will not allow video on pretty much every current headunit out there...I swear man, this is CRAP.
Laughing ... what an idiot. Apple monopolistic. With less than 10% of total market share, THAT DOMINATION! HOW DARE THEM. Wake up kid. Get your facts straight.
Laughing ... what an idiot. Apple monopolistic. With less than 10% of total market share, THAT DOMINATION! HOW DARE THEM. Wake up kid. Get your facts straight.
Apple has done this plenty of times, "Kid." do you not think it's wrong for them to change this in the new iPod which renders everyones previous video cables useless? It was not necessary, and they have done it before many times on MANY of their products, if you're a fan boy, I know theres no use saying anything about apple to you.
What's even WORSE is they did this without telling any of their buyers, they didn't inform Kenwood, Pioneer, Griffin, Eclipse, Alpine, NO ONE knew until it was out and stuff started NOT working, if you think thats okay...then yeah, have fun. It doesn't matter how much of the MARKET share you have, you can still be a monopolistic company, I'm not even going to point out how they are, you can research that yourself, because if you don't have a clue on how they monopolize, then YOU are an idiot, you need to get your facts straight.
Kid? With 3 degrees, including an MBA, and 16 years in the IT profession ... hmmm maybe I need more research. I think you need to get your facts straight.
Let me school you a little. I know ignorance is bliss and you seem happy as can be, but I digress.
The new iPod uses video H.264 standard only and is not capable of seeing older H.263. This format, H.264, was written by VCEG and MPEG in a partnership known as VCT. This is a world wide accepted format that the majority of technology companies voted to be the format of choice.
If Apple wanted to be monopolistic, wouldn't they have chosen to create their own format?
The new iPods are built to take advantage of updates on H.264 that are around the corner. This will make the new iPod have much better "HD" type resolution for video out.
What manufacturer can make something new that is able to take advantage of everything it has built in the past? I think I still have a Sony cassette player in my attic, maybe I should go scream at them for not making it compatible with my MP4 player.
From what I have read, Apple had to make their new product line available to new industry standards that are just around the corner. Hats off to them for thinking ahead.
Maybe it would behoove you to educate yourself about new products before taking the plunge. You never said that you had a problem with your older iPod. You just wanted the latest and greatest item without knowing anything about it. Now you sit and scream at Apple for your own stupidity.
I agree, apple is preparing its new line of products to integrate with advances in technology. This may be a poor example but look at the PS3 and its purported reverse compatibility with PS2 games; it was kludgey at best and who wanted to go look at that crappy old resolution anyway. I tried and never did it again. The same went for the 360, I still own the original Halo, but I can't tell you the last time I played it.
The new line will be compatible and interchangeable. Apple tv is still struggling. Video resolution from a portable device to a full screen HD monitor is inherently horrible. I have a feeling that they would like to push their product line to pick up slack on that end. A 160GB player using a better video codec would be the perfect device to sync a larger universal file with higher bitrates, etc, to....in my opinion at least.
It is always the 3rd parties that need to keep up or go by the wayside. There will be new products, accessories, and updates to compliment the new generation of devices.
Apple is doing a lot right now behind the scenes some of which will be very surprising. I have a feeling that many new features for the iPhone will begin to emerge now that Leopard has hit the shelves. Look at 3rd party apps for example; I don't think that it is a coincidence that they are waiting until February to make them available and release the SDK.
Bottom line, technology will always have us chasing our tails. I have been holding off on making any purchases until this latest wave of products hit the market and 3rd party developers had time to start catching up. I for one am very happy with the performance of my iPhone.
There are things that are beginning to emerge right now and that will be hitting the markets in the next few years that will make this stuff look like eWaste....
Alpine does have and iPhone and I am assuming that it will be compatible with the latest generation of iPhones.
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This also caught my eye and I am waiting until it hits the market for reviews. It features turn-by-turn nav, straigtline nav, and is copatible with topo and marine maps. It is portable, it would be nice if it featured an a/v out cable:
Kid? With 3 degrees, including an MBA, and 16 years in the IT profession ... hmmm maybe I need more research. I think you need to get your facts straight.
Let me school you a little. I know ignorance is bliss and you seem happy as can be, but I digress.
The new iPod uses video H.264 standard only and is not capable of seeing older H.263. This format, H.264, was written by VCEG and MPEG in a partnership known as VCT. This is a world wide accepted format that the majority of technology companies voted to be the format of choice.
If Apple wanted to be monopolistic, wouldn't they have chosen to create their own format?
The new iPods are built to take advantage of updates on H.264 that are around the corner. This will make the new iPod have much better "HD" type resolution for video out.
What manufacturer can make something new that is able to take advantage of everything it has built in the past? I think I still have a Sony cassette player in my attic, maybe I should go scream at them for not making it compatible with my MP4 player.
From what I have read, Apple had to make their new product line available to new industry standards that are just around the corner. Hats off to them for thinking ahead.
Maybe it would behoove you to educate yourself about new products before taking the plunge. You never said that you had a problem with your older iPod. You just wanted the latest and greatest item without knowing anything about it. Now you sit and scream at Apple for your own stupidity.
Lesson learned.
You do know that no one knew the iPod classics had these blocks until about three weeks after release right? Apple never INFORMED anyone, so what was I to go on? I bought an iPod Video 30g, and then the next week I find out that the iPod classics had come out in place of the iPod video and the 80g costed the same as the 30g that I had bought the week before...so who would have thought that Apple would have technically been screwing me over and making my previous video cables useless? The authorization chip is not REQUIRED to display 480p resolutions, thats an excuse, there is no actual NEED for it, it's basically used a LOCK.
Are you offended that I called you "kid" after you called me "kid"? If you're going to be a jack ass I'll be one right back, I didn't flame anyone, you were the one who came on here and called me an idiot. I don't quite care about your degree in the IT field, I've met people that are sixty years old and have worked in the IT field for over thirty years, and it amazes me how little they know.
And what do you mean "Apple had to make their new product line available to new industry standards that are just around the corner. Hats off to them for thinking ahead." are you talking about the 480p resolution? Are you kidding me? Right because tvs JUST started displaying at that resolution eh? If I remember, 480p isn't even a high definition resolution, that is actually what the NATIVE resolution of standard DVDS is, but most TVS display it in an interlaced picture, not progressive.
All in all, if Apple would have had the common courtesy to inform people, and it's business partners, that the latest iPod would have compatibility issues, and basically just flat out not work on certain head units, and tvs, then I wouldn't be so pissed. But yeah, I guess I am stupid FOR reading up on the iPod classic before I bought it and finding NOTHING from Apple telling me that it might have problems with certain previous accessories, my bad /sarcasm.
I am however, still wondering what "facts" I need to get straight. Go ahead and tell me what facts I need to get straight, so I can go ahead and lay some proof out for you.
You know after looking at this thread again I don't think that I gave a complete answer. I don't think that this is an Apple issue. The part about not releasing any info 1st is something worth debating.
However, the video issue may have nothing to do with Apple at all. You can thank the MPAA for creating modern DRM issues and HDCP Compliance.
HDCP compliance is affecting a lot of HD monitors and recievers as well. I haven't really looked into this yet, but this is definitely a DRM issue that I am sure an organization like the MPAA is behind. The chip itself may have something to do with making the modern iPods HDCP compliant and able to play HD content on modern entertainment systems. What should be allowed is some sort of downscaling. So if you are not trying to play your HD content in an HD format it can still play.
Apple has a lot to lose if it doesn't comply. I am sure that all of the licensing in iTunes for both video and audio content has clauses that ensure that Apple will protect content and adopt MPAA standards.
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