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Old 05-22-2006, 03:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Red face Clutch cancel switch: why?

Sorry for any flashbacks, folks...but my choices were to start a new thread or revive one that's old and very, very long. After searching for "clutch, cancel, switch," I found a thread called "WARNING: for MT6 owners," and this is the best answer I could find on the thread:

"...it's a safety requirement that all cars have this switch. your cars were probably older that you could start without it...."

Is that really the only reason...a federal reg?

Has anyone needed this function for off-roading? If so, I don't get it. The clutch cancel switch requires the MT to be in neutral, or the FJ will lurch when you crank it. So, if you must be in neutral, then you may as well depress the clutch pedal anyway. Either way--depressing the clutch pedal or putting the stick in neutral--only the parking brake will keep you from rolling. So, what's the function of it beyond a federal reg?
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Old 05-22-2006, 04:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Clutch cancel switch: why?

So when you are stalled on a hill in L4, you will not have to push the clutch and roll back. The truck will start in 1st gear and pull you through what you are stuck on. I have seen "heeps" do this.

I use it to start my truck in the morning to warm it up without climbing in. Reach over - slide the transmission into N, turn the key one notch, push the button, start the engine.
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Old 05-22-2006, 04:48 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Clutch cancel switch: why?

Castle Rock FJ Has it right, its sort of a manual (driver controled) hill start assist feature. You would use it if you stopped on a hill and shut off your truck for some reason, such as to recon a difficult part of the trail ahead. get in, put your rig in 1st gear, 4wd low range, press the clutch start cancel button, and start your truck with the clutch engaged (pedal released). because of the gearing it allows you to start the truck with it in gear without stalling and start moving at the same time, so you dont roll back down the hill or end up dumping the clutch and losing traction. MT toyota 4x4s have had this feature for years, ive used it successfully in the past, though mostly for being lazy and starting without the clutch in. i think thats the most common usage...
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Old 05-25-2006, 03:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Clutch cancel switch: why?

this explains a bunch,i had no idea what it was for
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I use it to start my truck in the morning to warm it up without climbing in. Reach over - slide the transmission into N, turn the key one notch, push the button, start the engine.
For me this is the most logical reason. Simply too lazy to get in the car when it is 20 degrees below or when the coffee is not flowing in your system yet. Just call it lazy left foot button....
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For me this is the most logical reason. Simply too lazy to get in the car when it is 20 degrees below or when the coffee is not flowing in your system yet. Just call it lazy left foot button....
if thats the case, then why dont toyota cars with sticks have one? trust me, its for starting on hills.
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if thats the case, then why dont toyota cars with sticks have one? trust me, its for starting on hills.
Yep, agreed. In my 99 Heep you needed to pull a fuse to do this but in the newer Rubi they have a clutch defeat switch as well. It's only for offroad and very seldom use. If the starter is anything like the Heep you don't want to use it often and you could really use a better alternator and battery if you want to use it more.
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Yep, agreed. In my 99 Heep you needed to pull a fuse to do this but in the newer Rubi they have a clutch defeat switch as well. It's only for offroad and very seldom use. If the starter is anything like the Heep you don't want to use it often and you could really use a better alternator and battery if you want to use it more.
Why would you even compare the starter in the Heep to a Toyota? That's the beautiful benefit to having something that is completely built in Japan...
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Why would you even compare the starter in the Heep to a Toyota? That's the beautiful benefit to having something that is completely built in Japan...
LOL that's why I'm in a Toyota now.
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Why would you even compare the starter in the Heep to a Toyota? That's the beautiful benefit to having something that is completely built in Japan...
Hey, don't be hatin' the AMC CJ's.

They're legends along with the 40 and 60 series.
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