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Old 02-18-2008, 11:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I just purchased a Audiocontrol Matrix 6 Channel Line Driver, because I heard it increases the signal to the speakers quite well and makes it sound great. However, i am still trying to understand how to tune it. If I have a line driver, do I even need to bother with the gain knob on the amplifier itself? Or just tune it via the Line driver?
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Old 02-18-2008, 11:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I just purchased a Audiocontrol Matrix 6 Channel Line Driver, because I heard it increases the signal to the speakers quite well and makes it sound great. However, i am still trying to understand how to tune it. If I have a line driver, do I even need to bother with the gain knob on the amplifier itself? Or just tune it via the Line driver?
you need to tune it just like the amp. and yes, the amplifier setting is super important. line drivers arent necessary unless you are running tons of amplifiers off the same signal.
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you need to tune it just like the amp. and yes, the amplifier setting is super important. line drivers arent necessary unless you are running tons of amplifiers off the same signal.
I am using it because the Avic-D3's signal is 2 volts. This boosts it significantly.
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I am using it because the Avic-D3's signal is 2 volts. This boosts it significantly.
you dont want to boost it any more than needed. with any modern amp, you will be fine. they probably rate there output voltages in RMS. not peak to peak like a lot of them. output voltage ratings arent regulated by the CEA. there are many different means of rating them just like amplifiers output ratings used to be. now its all on a level playing field so you can compare apples to apples.
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you dont want to boost it any more than needed. with any modern amp, you will be fine. they probably rate there output voltages in RMS. not peak to peak like a lot of them. output voltage ratings arent regulated by the CEA. there are many different means of rating them just like amplifiers output ratings used to be. now its all on a level playing field so you can compare apples to apples.
Well, I know that Line Drivers are commonly used if you have an old radio, or one that dosen't put out enough volts, I see no harm in using a line driver for a cleaner signal, which is exactly what it'll do...if I had an Eclipse unit I wouldn't bother as they put out 4-5 volts.
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Well, I know that Line Drivers are commonly used if you have an old radio, or one that dosen't put out enough volts, I see no harm in using a line driver for a cleaner signal, which is exactly what it'll do...if I have an Eclipse unit I wouldn't bother as they put out 4-5 volts.
like i said, you are comparing apples to oranges with most companies outputs. more voltage doesnt mean a cleaner signal, it just means more voltage. i commonly hear more noise in the system with a line driver installed.
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like i said, you are comparing apples to oranges with most companies outputs. more voltage doesnt mean a cleaner signal, it just means more voltage. i commonly hear more noise in the system with a line driver installed.
Is it a bad line driver or something? I have heard nothing but good things about Audiocontrols Line Drivers and everyone that I have asked says to use them since they boost the signal. A bit pulled from Wikipedia.

In Mobile Audio, a line driver is a small amplifier used to bolster the strength of the audio signal coming from the source unit.

The newly strengthened signal is then fed to its appropriate amplifier.

Gain on an amplifier needs to be set with regard to the input voltage the amplifier sees - the lower the input voltage, the greater the gain to produce a given loudness. When amplifying a very low-voltage signal, the noise-floor of the system raises, meaning that the amplifier is not only amplifying the low-voltage audio signal, but also the low-voltage noises picked up in the line along the way. By using a line driver, the amplifier's gains need not be set so high, thereby amplifying the audio signal with less of the low-level noise.

This can be useful especially in long runs of signal cable, which are more prone to picking up noise.
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Is it a bad line driver or something? I have heard nothing but good things about Audiocontrols Line Drivers and everyone that I have asked says to use them since they boost the signal. A bit pulled from Wikipedia.

In Mobile Audio, a line driver is a small amplifier used to bolster the strength of the audio signal coming from the source unit.

The newly strengthened signal is then fed to its appropriate amplifier.

Gain on an amplifier needs to be set with regard to the input voltage the amplifier sees - the lower the input voltage, the greater the gain to produce a given loudness. When amplifying a very low-voltage signal, the noise-floor of the system raises, meaning that the amplifier is not only amplifying the low-voltage audio signal, but also the low-voltage noises picked up in the line along the way. By using a line driver, the amplifier's gains need not be set so high, thereby amplifying the audio signal with less of the low-level noise.

This can be useful especially in long runs of signal cable, which are more prone to picking up noise.
audiocontrol is good stuff. its just not a necessary piece in your application. if the rest of the stereo is setup properly, then you wouldnt ever need one. if there is any noise in the signal, it is going to get louder as well. you amplify whatever it sends out whether it is good or bad.
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audiocontrol is good stuff. its just not a necessary piece in your application. if the rest of the stereo is setup properly, then you wouldnt ever need one. if there is any noise in the signal, it is going to get louder as well. you amplify whatever it sends out whether it is good or bad.
I have no noise in my system now. It was a bad amplifier. I'm using the Line Driver so that I can get my system louder, faster, without pushing the gains on the amp all the way up or the source unit which would cause clipping (overdrive)
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I have no noise in my system now. It was a bad amplifier. I'm using the Line Driver so that I can get my system louder, faster, without pushing the gains on the amp all the way up or the source unit which would cause clipping (overdrive)
louder faster?? alrighty. but you shouldnt need one if your install is done properly.
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